Just another one of those questions that have been on my mind. I want to know what its like to be in a competitive game competition and if its worth it. Theres no way ill even be in 1 because they look hard and im a casual gamer.
I participated in a local Unreal Tournament competition and won $3k. Was $75 buy in and I think I got somewhat lucky in my match placement. Was allowed to do this solo at 14 🤣.
Lots of terrible players in my bracket while I watched the best pick each other off on the other half. Took second honestly by sitting back and picking off kills from others engagements 🤷♂️.
I did CAL P on in the 1.6 era with middling success.
I barely can get high in the mid tier leagues. Too much specialization, meta, and the playing field is literally thousands of times bigger.
You’ve probably also aged out of it. I never thought it’d happen, but I can feel my hand/eye coordination getting worse over the decades.
It’s well document in Korean pro leagues that APM decreases with age as well.
2 things come to mind:
The first thing is that at one point many years ago we participated in Rocket League’s RLCS. Participation was completely open. We were actually doing quite well until we randomly ran into pro players and got completely demolished. It’s kinda humbling to know that even though you’re part of the top ~1% of players, pro players are still in a totally different league and absolutely unbeatable. Their speed and game sense is so much better than that of any mere mortal, it’s like we weren’t even there. We were probably low Grand Champion around the time, and we got beaten like we would beat Gold ranked players. Personally I don’t mind losing like this, it’s a good learning experience and shows you how much is possible.
At uni I also participated in plenty of LAN parties that had random game competitions. Usually they were games that a lot of us didn’t ever play before. We’d usually start playing the game a few hours in advance to get a feel for it. There I’ve found that I’m quite decent at this usually, but that there are definitely a few people who can get quite decent at a game in 2 hours to the point that they challenge people with casual experience with the game. It as always good fun though, and because I tended to put some effort into it I regularly managed to get into the top 3.
yes! the old Nintendo World Championships! various pokemon and smash bros tournaments, and will be going to my first EVO this year!
it’s fun as long as you’re passionate about it and don’t fret too much about winning or losing. just have fun with other ppl who also enjoy this hobby and try to learn and keep growing!
I’ve done a few competitions of various sorts, yeah Most of them have been tournaments. I lost all of them.
To answer the question I think you are asking: No, I’ve never done any of the modern game competitions or leagues. I am not nearly good enough to compete against anyone who is remotely good enough to compete in gaming competitions. I’m also a completely different gamer these days and prefer to just play more meditative single player games that have bursts of action.
To answer the question in a very literal way: Yes, back in the 80s I made it to the regional finals of the Nintendo World Championships (at the time when the Fred Savage movie The Wizard had just came out). I was up on stage in the central throne chair with the 100ft TV screen behind me projecting my game to 1000s of people in front of me cheering us on. I was roughly 10?? at the time, so I thought I was fucking amazing. I just barely missed out on making it to the next round in some other state because I screwed up placing a long piece in Tetris. I won a hat out of the thing.
I also played in a Tetris tournament at a bar in LA about 15 years ago. I fucking crushed it and won $100.
I’ve been in a few, but not the big cash prize tournaments they have now. I was in the TF2 studio rumble around `09ish against several game development studios. We made it through 3-4 rounds until we played against Valve, who of course wiped the floor with everyone. Later I joined a competitive team for a game called Guns of Icarus. It was fun at first and we did really well, but over time it became more and more stressful as we focused on winning over having fun. I finally gave it up because the competition eventually took all the fun out of the game.
What do you mean exactly by “wiped the floor with us”? Even if they are the devs of the game they’re still devs, not pro players. How much better could they be?
Valve was the only team that seemed to have a plan. The matches we played beforehand were sort of like a really good public match. People were taking it seriously, playing well, communicating, and going for objectives, but there was still a lot of “doing your own thing” and not a lot of team strategy. I think most of the studios, including ours, were just in it for the fun and didnt really practice very much beforehand.
I believe we were on gravelpit when we played valve (might have been dustbowl or one of the other western looking maps, this was back in 07 so it’s been a while). The spawn gates were sort of down in a dip in the ground, and on the defenders side where we couldnt see yet, they setup a row of turrets with a row of dispensers behind them. Like a lot of them, probably half the team or more was engineer. When the gates opened, anyone that went down into that little dip was immediately wrecked. Their engineers were running between the rows constantly spamming repairs, and they had pyros spamming flames to catch spies. We almost broke out a couple of times, but in the end never made it out of the spawn area.
Hahaha, that sounds glorious, wish I was there to see it!
Sometimes devs are pretty good at their games. Other times, they bring QA who are typically really good at their games.
The devs are usually pretty good at their games, especially when it’s a passion project and in the earlier years of the game.
For a while I was part of the number one raiding guild on the server with the worst progression in WoW.
Wyrmrest Accord, you were great.
So I got that going for me, I was among the best of the worst for a couple months!
I’ve traveled the world playing tournaments for a little bit. Won a few. Crashed out in some others…
The big conventions feel insanely cool. It’s like you’re in the game but irl. You are walking down the elevator of your hotel and it feels like just being in the game when you are surrounded by people that you with. It’s super cool having people come up and hug you and you go “oh who’s this?” And it often turns out it’s people that you have shared hundreds of hours with.
The actual competition I’ve always felt it’s all about who can play the least bad. As far as I could tell. Everyone plays worse on stage. For a multitude of reasons. At the end I was playing extremely chill and care free and it showed in the results.
Also something less obvious. Tournaments always developed their own meta. Which I always heard comments from people from home “why didn’t you follow this meta thing. Why did you play such weird strategies?”. It’s because truly if there’s a big competition going on. Everyone good is there. And it’s not even worth getting practice on the normal servers. You have to scrim over and over the people there and that develops its own meta.
I used to play WoW 5v5 arena competitively in 2007. This was way before they went hard on e-sports so it’s not really comparable to today. Just to give you some perspective, the winning team at blizzcon got $25k which meant $5k each which (again, only in case of winning the world championship) would’ve just so covered my travel costs.
Honestly it was terrible. At first I used to play for fun and only accidentally ended up in a top team. Then my team got way too ambitious and it became more of a chore. I told them early on that I had no interest in playing like that but they couldn’t find a replacement so I kept playing with them until I was fully burned out. It was nice being good at something but it ruined the fun of it.
Went to a local smash tournament with my friends a while ago now and it became apparent to me that I was really good among my friends, but the worst at a tournament lmao.
That’s definitely how it goes. So many of the people that show up start that way - “I can beat all my friends, I bet I’ll do pretty good in tournaments.” then “Oh no”.
But everybody’s gotta start somewhere.
In the 80s I went to a public event featuring the California Joy Stick; “Joy” referring to the brand of dish soap. There’s probably a more common name for it. It’s a device made of a large fabric loop on a stick with a nut for holding the loop open. You dip it in a solution of water, dish soap, and glycerine, and then open the loop to the breeze or walk with it. You can create bubbles tens of metres long, and wide and tall enough for a person to stand inside. I’m surprised it isn’t still a thing people do, you could easily make one.
There was a bubble making competition. Most of the competitors seemed to be quite casual, but most of them found it fairly easy to be competitive.
I joined a rocket league tournament at a comic-con! But the servers went down just as we were about to play, lol, so I never got to try
Im sure you got your hopes up but its a bummer it never actually happened.
Never did like pro level (and never had aspirations to do so), but way back in the day, the Cyberathlete Professional League (CPL) had an amateur league fittingly called the Cyberathelete Amateur League (CAL), we had a small team for Enemy Territory: Quake Wars that we competed in, didn’t do stellar but it was a blast, met people from other teams we’d often practice with or just do pub games.
It was total beer league type stuff, if you can find a group like that imo it’s worth it, would love to have that type of experience again, end the day stakes were low and we played for fun, people took it serious but not too serious if that makes sense, it’s really easy to kill the enjoyment if someone takes it too far though.
CAL got somewhat serious at the very top and was basically the precursor to MLG. CAL open was very hit or miss, but at least in CS it got quite serious pretty quickly. Those top players were some of the first ever to get paid semi consistent and were the best in the world at the time.
A friend and I entered a local Magic the Gathering tournament. I had just taught him how to play, and he had picked up a few cards of his own and talked me into giving it a shot.
I sat down across from my opponent and watched him peel the plastic off of a deck that he just bought, and pummeled me with a pre built elf synergy deck.
My friend got stuck in a neverending healing token deck. He couldn’t do enough damage to break all the healers, and the healer didn’t have anything strong enough to get past his defenses, they just sat there dealing and healing infinite damage for what felt like forever.
I was pretty much over the game by the end of the day.
I travel to Combo Breaker every year and enter a whole bunch of games. This year I was able to up my travel budget for both CB and Frosty Faustings. Some of them are games I consider myself decent at, some of them are games I just hop in casually for fun. And then there’s the Mystery Bracket, where every round is something you’ve probably never heard of and the goal is to figure out what’s happening before your opponent does - it’s the highlight every year. Back in 2022, I even TO’d and commentated the side tournament for Puyo Puyo Champions, and I got roped into filling in on commentary for Panel de Pon.
In a double elimination bracket, 25% of players will go 0-2. If this is your first time entering, you should expect to be one of them. And you shouldn’t let that stop you from going to have a good time! Majors are basically conventions that happen to have brackets at them, and that bracket will only be a small fraction of your time all weekend. Get as many casual sets in as you can before/after bracket, check out the arcade room, buy some trinkets with your favorite characters on them from the artist alley, watch finals, go out to dinner with rivals you’d only ever spoken to online before and finally get to meet in person. Oh, and come to the mahjong tables where you’ll find me promoting this strangely unexpected venn diagram intersection.
And that’s just what majors are like. If you have any kind of local FGC, go to your locals! Don’t just sit at home playing ranked, get out of the house and meet people!
100% agree! I used to go to Smash locals on the regular, and it’s so much more welcoming than I thought it would be at first.
There’s no expectation for any skill level, just show up ready to learn and people will mostly encourage you and help.
