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Microsoft now activates 'Recall', a Copilot AI feature that's making your private emails & messaging obsolete by saving screenshots of these every few seconds. So what does this Windows update mean, is it really "opt in" and how can you turn it off? Let's take a deep dive!
  • somenonewho@feddit.orgEnglish
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    21 days ago

    My first thought seeing this headline was “who cares I’m using Linux anyway” … My second thought was "Well I’m probably gonna start working in a mixed environment again soon and I’ll be the one who’ll have to disable Recall for the Users … So good to know

      • rozodru@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        21 days ago

        I think the Doctor Who fanbase is the actual worst out of all fanbases but I still like watching the show. you don’t have to participate in the community if you want to use something. I use Linux but I’m not wearing thigh high socks and sitting in the Arch discord all day.

        • BearGun@ttrpg.networkEnglish
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          21 days ago

          Unfortunately my experiences with linux tell me that i will have to engage with the community, because there will be shit i need to look up and fix fairly often.

          • rozodru@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            21 days ago

            yes when I installed Arch a week later a pair of stockings showed up in the mail oddly enough.

      • Tamo240@programming.devEnglish
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        21 days ago

        You’re seeing insufferable people who also happen to use Linux, as insufferable people also like to be early adopters so they can say they are different and therefore better.

        There are plenty of super helpful people in the community, and Linux is well past the early adopter phase. The transition from Windows is smoother than it has ever been.

        • Taleya@aussie.zoneEnglish
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          21 days ago

          Man they must relaly hate the mass uptake. Makes them less special with every install.

          (I keed, we all know they identity politic with the distros instead)

      • Vinstaal0@feddit.nlEnglish
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        21 days ago

        Yes, a lot of Linux users are insufferable, but there are also people willing to help in a nice and normal manner …

    • Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pubEnglish
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      21 days ago

      man with gaping wound in his skull pissed that people keep suggesting he go to a hospital.

      “Just like I told you, insufferable hospital maxxis, I swear!”

      • joelfromaus@aussie.zoneEnglish
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        20 days ago

        More like:

        Man broken down on the side of the road pissed at people in cars yelling “should have bought a Toyota!” as they drive by.

        Does it matter? No. Is it annoying? Yes.

    • mechoman444@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      21 days ago

      Linux is great and all and I use it on several of my machines.

      And if lay person just needs a computer to do basic things, internet, social media, stream, watch multimedia and the like it’s a great system. I have it on my multimedia PC we use only for entertainment consumption and my grammas laptop where she only watches streaming videos on.

      But if someone needs it for anything else, graphic design gaming productivity development it’s much, much more difficult to use. I’m not saying it’s impossible but it’s much harder than just installing an exe on Windows and calling it a day.

      And that’s unfortunately the catch with Linux is that it’s significantly less convenient to use than Windows.

      For me personally when Windows 10 reaches its end of life I’m going to have to dule boot for regular computer usage to Linux and for gaming on windows 11. Something I really don’t want to do because all I want to do is just turn my computer onand be able to use it I don’t want to switch between operating systems but I realize that Windows 11 will be a privacy nightmare.

  • ohshit604@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    22 days ago

    For the folks saying install Linux keep in mind you can indirectly be captured by this feature.

    For example if you’re playing an online video game you’ll be captured or your chat messages in your messaging app.

    • BoxOfFeet@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      21 days ago

      That’s pretty easily avoidable, too. Don’t play online games, or talk to people. That’s what I do.

      • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        21 days ago

        You can’t convince 99% of windows users to switch, the real solution is done via legislation. The force of a government is more powerful any boycotts you can muster. (For example: European Union has been passing a regulations on right to repair, do privacy laws next)

        • amorpheus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          21 days ago

          Why not both? As Linux achieves more and more momentum, you are bound to see real change in how Microsoft treats its users.

        • Bluewing@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          21 days ago

          Legislation is a poor way to force populations into changing away from something they choose to do/use. As the saying goes “It’s hard to talk someone out of something they weren’t talked into”.

          Example: See France or Somalia

          • BearGun@ttrpg.networkEnglish
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            21 days ago

            In this case the legislation would be used to ban recall and similar features, not to drive people away from windows.

  • MudMan@fedia.io
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    22 days ago

    I seem to remember the feature was opt-in, right?

    I’d check, but this hasn’t made it to my Copilot+ PC, despite all the fuss.

      • MudMan@fedia.io
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        22 days ago

        Not how it’s worked with the rest of these features, for the record. I did get click-to-play, which is activated by default (but does nothing unless you trigger it manually). That’s just an entry in their increasingly large wall of “stuff you don’t want switches” in the Settings.

        It’s immensely wasteful in terms of dev time, but at the same time, hey, kudos for having all this stuff centralized in the one list, unwieldy as it’s getting (at least there’s a search in there).

        I wish we could talk like adults about these things over here, because there’s a ton of interesting nuance to how Windows 11 actually works, rather than the parody version that everybody loves to dunk on. There are some actually good features and choices I’d like to see make the jump to Linux and vice versa, even discounting things like hardware or software support. But nobody ever wants to have that conversation, it’s all just the serotonin shot chase from rooting for the home team (and/or being contrarian about it).

          • MudMan@fedia.io
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            22 days ago

            I’m not sure I buy your motivations, but hey, I can oblige regardless. What, top three small things from Windows I’d like on Linux and the other way around? Windows to Linux first?

            • Hibernation and states across boots. I know people hate Windows power management on laptops, but at least on my last couple of desktops it’s been surprisingly robust. I can come back overnight to the same setup I left open, even if an update ran in the middle. Same windows, tabs, open documents… It even survives booting into Linux and then coming back just fine. KDE is taking some steps in this direction, but they’re a ways away. I hope they progress quickly on it.

            • Scaling and multimonitor. It’s way better than it used to be, but there are still a ton of minor annoyances on Linux. KDE in particular has some issues with icon scaling on vertical taskbars, which you’d think would be easy to fix but have been there for a while now. Other pieces of software still struggle with consistent text and headers, too, especially on multimonitor setups with different fractional scaling. Say what you will about Windows’ look and feel (and I will in a sec), the compositing is super robust and flexible.

            • Mounts! Network mounts in particular and Samba mounts specifically. You just click on them, authenticate and you can mount them as either a folder or a drive right from the context menu. On Linux, Dolphin will give you access to them the same way within itself, but they won’t be mounted to the fs in a predictable way, so it’s fine for copy/pasting stuff but it’s not good if you want to use them as local folders. And Windows will remember those mounts across sessions, authentication included. On Linux you need to edit fstab manually and keep a plaintext copy of your SMB password. It’s just so smooth on Windows.

            So… Linux to Windows next?

            • Just the snappy window movement, man. Linux feels so much lighter than Windows for no good reason. I also really like both Gnome’s more Mac-like desktop and KDE’s default “hold shift to tile” window snapping. Windows used to be the gold standard for window management without going full tiling but I’d say I prefer KDE now.

            • Vertical taskbars/no taskbars. I don’t understand why Windows decided to force the taskbar to the bottom. It’s just absurd for ultrawide screens and inconvenient for tablets and touchscreens, or for screens with burn-in issues. I’d argue KDE overcorrects. You don’t need to have a dozen different docks per desktop, but it’s definitely better than zero options. And the top bar is great for touch and more reliable than sliding from the bottom edge to pop up a hidden taskbar on Windows.

            • Remote desktop everywhere. Gnome in particular has fantastic out-of-the-box support. Windows’ version of this is actually very good, too, but the server is paywalled to the Pro license, which is hard to justify. And hey, I get it, they’re trying to monetize their OS but that’s actually worse, so…

            Now, that was a tangent, but if more people want to share their top 3’s I’ll read them. What the hell.

    • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
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      22 days ago

      I was wondering why my gaming PC didn’t get the update yet… but then I remembered I installed the EU version of Windows on it… HA!

      • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        22 days ago

        Microsoft is bringing an update to Copilot Vision for Windows Insiders

        Unless you’re in the windows insider program nobody should have this feature yet.

    • dmtalon@infosec.pubEnglish
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      22 days ago

      I wish it were that easy. I’m pretty tech literate and I’ve had Linux installed on and off since the late 1990’s. I’m running fedora desktop on a dual boot machine that also has windows 10. The PC will run windows 11 but just like everyone else I’m not excited to upgrade.

      But I still have to hop over to windows to do things. I know it’s a chicken and egg thing, but Linux just needs to get over the hump if ease of use and app availability.

      Having to switch from. App1 to app1 that boat do say, CAD, is hard. It’s a learning curve. And add that learning curve into also switching to Linux and it’s overwhelming.

      I actually got my dad on fedora, and he went all in and set it up, and worked quite diligently to get everything working for how he used his computer. He did this because his PC was fine but not windows 11 compatible. End the end there were just too many things that he struggled with and he broke down and bought a new PC that came with 11. One of the big issues he had was with documents. Syncing documents that he was editing.

      He was OK relearning a new Libre Office but it was syncing it back to a Google drive or something that ultimately did not work for him. (I can’t remember exactly what he was doing).

      He ran with Fedora for a couple months before giving up

      • Lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        22 days ago

        I run a W10 LTSC VM on both my laptop and desktop for this purpose. I refuse to use Windows on bare metal, but I also understand that some software simply does not exist (nor functions under Wine) on Linux. Things like Adobe Acrobat, which I need for legal things from my lawyer for custody stuff, some vehicle diagnostic software, and software for my fucking labelmaker (Brother PT-D600, broken screen, will fix or replace eventually).

      • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        21 days ago

        Getting certain Windows apps to run on Linux is still impossible, unfortunately.

        What I don’t understand is that file syncing is well supported. While I would never condone using a Google product, Celeste and Insync both support Google Drive. Aside from those, Dropbox has a native Linux package, and a self-hosted NAS is always a sound investment.

        • dmtalon@infosec.pubEnglish
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          21 days ago

          Ya, for my father (in his 70s) I was proud he gave it a real effort, but there were just too many changes and things that broke his workflow causing him to bail on it

      • HubertManne@piefed.socialEnglish
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        22 days ago

        I highly recommend using an old laptop and keeping the windows machine. This allows you to fully use the linux laptop as your not booting back and forth. Further with these type of issues a “bleeding edge” distro like fedora is not ideal. My recommendation has always been zorin for a set it and forget it distro. Its an ubuntu spin that uses the stable release and tends to be a bit late even on that (which is most peoples complaint about it) but it is good at being stable and having everything you need out of box as well as emulating a basic windows feel.

    • Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      22 days ago

      Just installed cachy on my partners PC. They just play games, I handle the maintenance.

      So far they are impressed at how quick it feels and how fast and unintrusive the system updates are.

      • Victor@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        22 days ago

        Love to hear these success stories and positive impressions and good vibes. Hope it lasts! 🥰

    • kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      20 days ago

      I have better things to do than spend hours trying to do simple things like permanent mounting of a network drive.

      • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        21 days ago

        It’s a shame that generic desktop apps don’t have the same level of support that games do. That would be an enormous boost to Linux adoption.

      • PastafARRian@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        21 days ago

        If you’re really committed, Wine or Quickemu are pretty damn good now. Grasshopper may almost fully work. Worth a shot. If you’re generous and it works well enough, you can create bugs for any gaps in behavior and help everyone else. But not everyone has time for it.

        • NeilBrü@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          21 days ago

          Grasshopper3D runs within Rhinoceros3D. Can “Rhino8 run with Wine/Quickemu?” is what I should research, though in McNeel’s documentation, it’s explicitly stated to not use Wine (I think). I suppose I could run on an older x86_64 Intel Macbook, but then I lose NVIDIA acceleration.

      • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        20 days ago

        Last I checked Rhino was gold in winedb. Did something change?

        But I set up work machines when I need windows. Using corporate licensing help set some pretty good group policies. Then I just remote into them when I need to use something or work on something windows related. You can keep an instance in the cloud or a physical box, whatever works for you.

        Remoting in with a linux machine on a semi decent connection is about the same as being there.

    • arsCynic@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      21 days ago

      Please sit down for what I’m about to tell you. When a Linux user communicates with someone using Windows, the Linux user’s sent data is still being harvested. 💢

      • Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish
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        20 days ago

        Uh huh, so what you’re saying is that the other user also must be assimilated, then.

        Resistance is futile

  • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    22 days ago

    “How to disable this opt in feature”: “don’t turn it on”

    I get that Lemmy is a bastion for M$ hate but FUD articles get annoying.

    • Pamasich@kbin.earth
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      21 days ago

      Also it’s only for AI Windows which requires an AI chip. Considering how anti-AI the fediverse is, I doubt any of the people here would be getting AI Windows in the first place. It’s a non-issue for the users here already from the get-go at the requirements.