Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.

"If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.

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      Old labour was.
      They pivoted quite hard a few years ago to try and win an election.
      They are just Tory Lite now.

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      For starters, the whole “Progressive” thing is an American concept born out of the American environment (with its very deep religious moralistic strain amongst a large fraction of the population) and does not really applicable to Britain because, at least until recently, they didn’t really have regressive tendencies.

      Beyond that Labour hasn’t been Leftwing since Tony Blair took over in the 80s and started talking about it being New Labour - they’re Neoliberals and quite strongly so, so pretty rightwing.

      What they did was performative Identity Politics like in the US: theatrics in the Moral space to make them seem different from the other mainstream party, rather than actually having genuine Liberal Principles.

      Of late they even ditched that and seem to be trying to outfascist the Fascists.

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    this is obviously such a dumpster fire that I can’t help but wonder, “When will they realize how dumb this is and back out of it?”

    then i remember that Brexit happened

    fuckin stubbornness is a national identity for you blokes innit

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    just do what the chinese do to get around thier great wall. use proxies and anti-detect browsers, its the next step after VPN… you might want to look around how to set these up.

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    This kinda proves that it was never about the children. How many children have know how and the means to buy a VPN subscription?

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      I started using a VPN after my friends/classmates told me about them in my Sophomore year of HS, mostly to get around the Wifi banning us from accessing certain apps (social media). Now, like all the other dumb kids, I used whatever they recommended, which was some shitty “Free” VPN that was probably stalking my data. But by Senior year, I smartened up and learned about online privacy and got myself a Proton VPN subscription after using the free version for a bit.

      So yeah, I could totally believe middle-school and up are using VPNs, cause that’s what we literally did.

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      Were you never a child? I formatted my family pc and reinstalled windows xp in 5th grade, and used a proxy to circumvent the schools online filter in 7th grade.

      Children are not as stupid as you seem to think

      VPNs also accept many anonymous payment methods that happen to be easily accessible to children, like gift cards. And free VPNs exist

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        Where there is a will there is a way, I guess.

        Still, a possible ban on VPNs affects way bigger group of business and adult users than the number of tech savvy kids.

        Where should the line be drawn? How much rights should everyone have to give up so that little techie Billy can’t hack his way to see some titties?

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      All it takes is one big brother/sister that knows how to access a free or paid VPN and their 5 year old little sibling and all their friends will have it also. Despite the difficulty teaching them math or history, they DO learn very quickly and are fast to figure out new things that interest them.

      Do you know what’s smarter and more talented the the UK government?

      14, 402, 544 kids…

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    The UK government doth protest too much about protecting the kids. It’s obvious that this who thing is just an attempt to increase the surveillance of the UK population.

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    It’s not so easy to ban VPNs. They need to setup DPI everywhere. And then people will start using DPI circumvention software.

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    Yeah, businesses will not accept this. Remote work and remote connections rely on VPN for ALL KINDS OF SHIT. If you must adhere to some kinds of government compliance, it is even MANDATED BY THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT. Explain to me how the hell that is going to just poof and not cause all kinds of problems.

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    They can come and pry TOR from my cold dead hands lmfao

    this law can eat shit. i ain’t gonna dox myself and feed my personal info to companies. maybe they should take this as a hint that most people care about their privacy

    if you don’t want kids seeing NSFW stuff be an actual parent and don’t raise your kids on the internet??

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      Yeah I’m Australia we have just decided to ban all social media for people under 16, i think it’s great honestly because screw from insta etc but I don’t think it’s the government ls job to prevent kids from using social media.

      I really think it’s a way to force adults to register their id to accounts not about protecting kids.

      Parents should monitor what their kids are doing not the government

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        Parents should monitor what their kids are doing not the government

        While I agree wholeheartedly with this, it’s often not that easy.

        Back in the days of 28.8 modems my parents found my little bro’s downloaded porn stash. It was in a Zip disk in his underwear drawer. They then locked down both of our AOL accounts so we couldn’t see that stuff.

        I thought this was bullshit because I kept my Zip disk full of porn next to all the other ones and labeled it “Homework.” Why should I get punished if I didn’t get caught?

        So I downloaded a keylogger, stole my dad’s password, and unlocked my account and continued to download porn.

        However, I don’t think government regulation would have worked in my case.

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            Tell some kid they get all the porn they want if they figure out fusion power and we’d have it in a fortnight.

            Took me about that long to figure out how to boot up silently, resume downloads, and shutdown the pc before my dad woke up for work.

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        I agree that it should primarily be a parents responsibility to keep kids off social media. But the big problem with social media is that a large proportion of young children don’t want to be on social media and recognise the detrimental impact it has on them, but the fear of missing out or being excluded is what keeps them on it. it then becomes a collective action problem, to get them off it you need to get a lot of their peers off it as well. There are movements where groups of parents try to do this, but reaching the critical mass necessary to do it is difficult.

        Hopefully the ban keeps a large number off to reduce the pressure on kids to be on it and at the same time the parents can do their bit as well.