I have been asked to enter a credit card to verify my age on yt a few times before. It was pretty annoying, really, given how much google already knows about me.
And you did this? I would just abandon the idea of seeing that video and move on with my life.
I…went around teehee (something like piped) :) I’ll never give google access to any banking info, they already know too much.
Somehow I’m pretty sure Google already had that information. You’ve never used Google Wallet to pay on the go? No? How about your Android keyboard to fill in some banking form?
I have not used either of these things. I use my Linux desktop to buy stuff, phone UX is not very good when trying to search products and reviews.
It is not age verification.
It is privacy invading, morality policing, de-anonymizing, state surveillance.
Nothing less.
Shout out to yt-dlp, the absolute unit of software beneath lots of media scraping tools.
You can also use MPV Video player, should be able to play many URLs you throw at it.
That is fucking amazing. Thank you!
to convert from hls (m3u8 streams) to mp4, you can also use ffmpeg:
ffmpeg -i https://y.com/path/to/stream.m3u8 -c copy output.mp4-i <input>specifies the input file-c copyspecifies that the contents should not be re-encoded (which would take a lot of time and computing power)output.mp4is the output file
Now this I can use.
Vlc can be a bit… Tedious.
Thanks.
How would one do this on a mobile browser?
If you’re on Android you can use yt-dlp in Termux. A little inconvenient but it works.
Chromium based browsers have an option that lets you view the source code by putting “view-source:” before the URL to see embedded videos
So
becomes
view-source:https://www.website.com/pagewithvideo
I never knew this. Thank you!
No worries! In a lot of sites you’ll find the embeded video or picture in a link in the source code. However, I haven’t figured tried to get this to work on YouTube in mobile browsers so that might not work
I’d imagine you’d need a browser that has developer tools, which is far less common on mobile. A simpler solution would be to use a separate app that just takes the page URL and downloads the video for you, such as this one: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.junkfood.seal/
Kiwi Browser has developer tools
Its easier to just sail the torrential high seas and get that 4k h265 quality shit that sites keep for paying members only. Once you know the models name its easy to get their entire collection.
I professionally pron too.
Nowadays I’m also worried about acquiring a stealerlog collection as well.
ARRRR!
yt-dlp is also insanely good for this - just install it, point it at the URL and it’ll usually figrue out how to grab the video without any fuss.
See, there are a few ways this could go.
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Age verification is as secure and private as promised, and it’s left at that. I like to call this “the miracle”, and we all know those don’t happen.
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Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but a government asks for “access to data to prevent crime” - things degenerate from there. This is the “systemic failure” scenario.
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Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but new scams evolve around it to make it dangerous. This would be the “criminal element” scenario.
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Age verification is not as secure and private as promised, and a leak occurs destroying lives and careers. This is the “system failure” scenario.
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Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but a few companies start scraping and selling data, leading to widespread harms. This is the “unethical merchant” scenario, and the most likely outcome.
All in all, there is only one “ok” scenario, and a lot of horrific ones. The math says we’re entirely boned ^_^
Or all of the above while still not being “as secure and private as promised”.
Nothing is ever as secure and private as promised.
Five seems to be the most plausible. Although knowing how shit corporate security is, I foresee a mix of three and four being common.
4, as it’s already happening. It’s just to be seen if people will have their lives ruined
We would need politicians to be the victims. Then these fascist laws will suddenly be cancelled.
If they were victims they would go even harder fascist, atleast that’s usually the case.
In theory, it isn’t hard to make it work, give everybody born on the same day a specific UUID and use that to authenticate with a database if it is true or false. Store the ID somewhere where the person has access to (ID/Passport/Digital passport etc) and it should be enough. Get IT persons and accountants to regularly audit it for security and if they keep logs/don’t have UUID’s per person etc.
But that’s not how it seems to work for the UK at this time
I feel like people are downplaying how dangerous even the possibility of #2 is. A lot of nations are already targeting the LGBTQ community on a regular basis and this would massively assist to streamline persecution of “certain” citizens as well as the rapid spread of religious dogma. Both the U.S. and Australia are current testing grounds for these outcomes.
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I wonder what it was that made Pornhub cooperate this time around. Iirc in texas and france they just “left” instead of implementing the age verification.
Maybe now they have a chance to demonstrate that these filters don’t work.
Maybe Britons are depraved porn fiends and spend so much that Pornhub can’t afford to lose this market!
these laws are all about control and tracking what you do online. they make the internet MORE dangerous, because (as with everything the government restricts or bans) there will be a black market, which is always more dangerous and exposes people to more things than they were looking for in the first place. you think dark web providers are gonna make you upload your id to stay compliant? no, they’re gonna continue anonymously operating through TOR and serve up some very questionably sourced content to those teens that are searching “boobs” and can no longer access pornhub
I really, really dont want to search for porn on the dark net…
There’s like a gazillion porn sites on the clearnet though, I can’t imagine them being able to track then all
If a government agency cant find them, they will be very difficult for average users to find as well
There is so much of it on the internet in general that you can’t really do much about it. On top of the fact it is still all over torrent websites as well.
I am aware of many, I am just saying looking at the dark web is not a good idea because… well… OK we’re all adults here. That’s where all the CP is and I have no interest in seeing that shit.
That’s a kinda not true tho. There is a fuck ton of cp on the clear web. The only thing I can say, is that Twitter used to have a lot of spam posts with links to cp.
That’s what this is going to become. And that’s another point to this. They can just go after people using the dark net claim it was for kiddie porn even if it wasn’t. the masses will just believe them.
Fuck it, let’s get back to something like the way it was.
Anonymous, amateur, just slightly hard to access to keep the mouth breathers out.
Well now that sounds a little like the fediverse itself!
being able to use obscure internet forums does not preclude you from being a mouth breather
This isn’t about being “age-checked”. It’s about IDing everyone on the internet and tracking where they go and what they do.
The world we live in is far far worse than anything from 1984.
I think that’s the tech side windfall, the age checking is entirely to put road blocks infront of boobies. They it will force places to just not service those regions because of the hurdles of convincing enough people to give their ID, some will, and more over time.
And it now gives I people a reason to actually create fake IDs or just more identity theft uses. Raise the value of obtaining people’s ID is the windfall for the data rapers
Exactly this.
Governments have a rock hard boner for detailed face scans of every person.
I will not be participating. I’ll get around any barriers they put in place.
I’m sure some countries will gladly setup VPNs for accessing this stuff even when all other countries block adult stuff.
And if I can’t, I’ll just stop using the internet for anything I don’t absolutely have to.
I don’t really need my smartphone. A laptop will do.
You don’t use the internet on a laptop?
absolutely have to
Anything you can do on a smartphone that would require Internet would also require Internet on a laptop no?
I suppose you could download offline installers to a thumb drive at the library or smth
absolutely have to
Haven’t seen any age verification in BGP.
I mean, schools (k-12) pretty easily blacklist websites you can access, not sure why parents can’t just do that if they want as well.
The amount of parental controls available now really give parents little to no room for excuses.
Parents can, and the only thing the government should be doing here is teaching parents how.
Because it was meant as a “soft ban”. First you make it troublesome to access porn, but also blame the providers if kids are circumventing it in any shape or form (no section 230-esque protections). This, alongside with payment processors, act as a chokehold on the industry, and also on the LGBTQIA+ community as a whole if you can read between the lines. The long game is to make it unpopular enough in a few years, that it can be easily outlawed.
I’ll make my own internet… with blackjack
Isn’t this basically what TOR and I2P are for?
No hookers?
They haven’t verified that they’re old enough for those.
That’s responsible
but i want to protect my kids from the sin of gambling how dare you try to bypass my protection
I didn’t need the Internet anyway thanks though
age-check laws threatens to chill speech
You’ve read your last free article.
They are allowed to chill their own speech. The government does not have the right to restrict speech, at least in the US.
Regardless, there is a contrast between how I have interpreted the article and how I feel about the page as a whole.
I want to go back
Check out the book the master switch. This is just all parts of the wheel.
If it makes you feel better, this isn’t the first time and it won’t be the last.
Because these regulations never do.
I still remember when social networks tried to impose a real name requirement.
I’ll take that bet. Probably won’t be effective, but I’m betting this shit is here to stay. There already hasn’t been enough push-back.
It still doesn’t have to be this way.
Since the earliest days of the internet, governments have been scheming to gain control over the dissemination of content - to have authority over what people can and cannot see.
Autocracies like Russia, China and North Korea simply established censorships regimes, but the best that western governments have generally been able to do is ban content that is illegal in and of itself, like child porn. Their goal, all along, has been to establish systems by which to censor content that is not in and of itself illegal.
This is the most success they’ve had yet.
The people technologically competent enough to pull it off are usually not stupid enough to want to pull it off and make their lives harder.
They also generally make more money not working for the government.
That’s just not true. People (including competent enough) are well willing to make the society worse for everyone if they are going to be gentry. That’s been this way for all of human history, thinking otherwise is that new thing of the 90s, when American exceptionalism has been expanded into “post-Cold-War globalist” world exceptionalism, similarly to how Judaism expanded into Christianity.
If that’s been their goal for decades then there would be something written down to that effect. Policy statements, press releases, meeting minutes… Got anything?
Of course there is no public evidence. It’s just a very probable speculation that governments want to control the internet.
Back in the days of newspapers/radio/tv, governments had control as they could easily go after news outlets.
However, with internet, they lost this power. They have been trying hard to regain the power of controlling information. The latest success was masking moderation as child protection.
There is a long history of proposed bills, and other legal maneuvers, to require ID for things like age verification, and other purposes, from around the world, dating back to the 90s. When COPPA was in the proposal state there was tons of discussion about ID requirements, it was ultimately struck down, but the conversation was being had.
I can remember this being discussed on CSPAN back when I was in high school, in the 90s.
