I just tried to look up a specific video of a Nick Swardson stand up bit. All I searched was “Nick Swardson loitering”. There were 5 fucking ads before an actual user posted video, then one real human posted video that barely had anything to do with Nick, then 5 more fucking ads.
I knew they were forcing ads into videos but clogging the entire search feed with ads is unfuckingbelievable.
Is this really what it’s come to? Ads are more important than what I’m actually looking for? Are people really okay with this?
YouTube is broke, but it was also deliberately punishing you for looking up Nick swardson I think?
I’ve been saying for almost 5 years now, ditch youtube. Everything I get the most butt hurt responses.
The tides will turn though. I’ve been denouncing google for years, and I’ve find it quite striking how the pushback has disappeared recently. It use to be that any negative comment about google was met by a small army of google fans. That just isn’t the case any more.
Where do you go for random videos and passing time watching things you’re interested in?
Pornhub.
They have the odd music video.
Lotsa butt hurt stuff there too
The dream is dead but we are still clinging to the memories of the good times
I get it, some things are not easily replaceable. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t take active steps to cut ties. The biggest steps for me was uninstalling the obnoxious default install on my phone and subscribing to an actual music service.
Going to youtube isn’t taboo, for me, just with the app un-installed I have to make the conscious decision to browse the site. The site is also much less convenient; making the experience mostly untenable. People existed before youtube and will exist after. The point isn’t to cripple them but to hit them hard enough so they can reflect on their dopamine pushing business practices.
I wonder what the ethical considerations are, given a choice between ad blocking on YouTube, and copying YT content to PeerTube. Is it sooooo much worse? Is it any worse?
The tipping point for me to definitely use adblock was 2022 and the ads when forwarding in videos. It’s absolutely nonsense.
I see what you’re doing Nick Swardson
Same as Google results, they’ve decided we can’t choose for ourselves and are now going to curated results.
Rumble and Yahoo are far better.
Isn’t Rumble alt-right?
That’s “monetizing the user base” in corpo speak
Honest question…I’ve given Rumble a couple of tries. Every visit it seems super right-wing. And I don’t mean conservative viewpoints with which I disagree, but full-blown conspiracy lunacy, hard-right fearmongering titles designed to enrage the conservative mind. That’s all that shows up in recommended/trending when I visit. I don’t have an account and pretty sure it’s not tracking my preferences. Is that just what it is, or have I fallen into someone else’s echo chamber somehow?
For reference, title at the top of the feed right now:
- Taylor Swift Worships Satan (my favorite)
- The Deep State’s New Plan to Steal 2024
- Why is “Conservative” Fox News Covering for Kamala
- The Forged Biden Resignation Will Be Exposed
Yup. Tried Rumble once. It was all right wing or pro-Russia or other extremist trash.
LibreY, search and get the results you asked for. You’re welcome.
Looks nice! A little too bare-bones and missing some features but thanks for putting it on my radar. I’m currently bouncing between duckduckgo and SearXNG.
I know this is an incredibly unpopular take on Lemmy, but YT Premium is the best value subscription on the web by my reckoning. I watch an absolute fuck ton of content on YT, and I listen to an absolute fuck ton of music on YT music. And my partner does too.
If you don’t use YT enough to justify the cost of the sub, I understand being frustrated with the ads but it’s a free service. I can’t imagine the amount of data that YT serves daily to free users.
I’m the same regarding Spotify. Only service I pay for, but I’m happy to do so for now. Not even a big music listener, but it’s damned nice to hear anything I want, anywhere I want, for a small fee.
My most frequent use case is off in the boondocks. I can download a dozen playlists to my phone and play them all offline.
And this is coming from a guy that used to download 20 song fragments off Usenet and compile them to get a single MP3. Also, I still steal all my video content.
Well they’ve successfully extorted you.
Most of us use ad blockers.Extorted? Why are you so dramatic? It’s a service I’m happy to pay for.
I use ad blockers too. But I also don’t mind paying for a good service. The cost of the service is worth it to me for the conveniences it offers. If I didn’t feel that way, I wouldn’t pay for it, but I also wouldn’t be complaining about something I’m not paying for.
Yeah if you enjoy some kinds of things that are only with it and it’s like more content there is nothing extortion about it. You kinda implied you pay for it so as to not see ads. My bad.
Honestly though I personally don’t think any of this stuff is worth paying for but I’m not typical. My wife and I pay for Az prime for the deliveries alone but we get tons of extra stuff with it such as streaming tv, grubhub+ and a few other things like hbo max and peacock I think.
We also pay for Netflix. With all that, I still often find I search for something and either nobody has it or Az has it but you have to pay extra.
I torrent everything I want and fuck the lot of them. We’re already paying them as it is. But then that’s how I’ve been doing most tv and movies since like early 2000s.
We pay Prime for the delivery options, and we buy a lot from Amazon. LOL, I even have Prime integrated on my Kodi server but my instinct is to pirate it first.
I also pay Prime for the delivery (it’s a cheap annual payment around these parts).
I also still torrent Prime shows, not out of instinct, but because it’s more convenient and less of a hassle, I get them in higher quality, and I can archive them for later.
Yeah, one day something is on a streaming service, the next day they’ve removed it. I always pir8.
I mean… pirating gives you the content saved on your own system, in the format you’ve chosen from those available, on your own system that’s not subject to pruning at their whims. My wife uses the prime video and Netflix because it’s easier for her, as I have not yet setup anything like Plex yet. I just use a pc connected to the TV, which is more complicated for her. But I’m going to eventually get something setup on Linux and a media center system like Plex or more likely something simpler.
Sir! This is lemmy. You go with the hivemind or die in a fire.
“I pay for a thing because it’s worth it to me and here’s why.”
(OK, I’d like to hear your take…)
“Idiot! Capitalist apologist!”
Or YouTube vanced/revanced for mobile
Yeah I’m with you on this, I actually only got it for YouTube music — which really is like “here you can play any song from the history of humanity and also yt video audios.” Well actually what happened is I was using Google Music and then the assholes shut it down and merged it into YT Music which is now roughly on par. I was pissed, but user retained
But I have been enjoying the fact that my subscription goes towards paying the ppl I watch, and I like that I’m unaffected by YT’s server side ads concept (which I’ve always wondered why they don’t do, I think it makes CDNs too hard to optimize while stitching ads directly into videos)
best value subscription
My problem with it is that it reinforces toxic monopoly, and I don’t even know how much money goes to the creators.
Also they raised price multiple times lately
I disagree on the value part. It’s more expensive than most other streaming aervices. If it was less than $10/mo I would sign up in a heartbeat
I thought it was $9.99/mo. What the hell are they charging for it?
$14/mo 🙃
Same. I originally got it for YT music. I don’t listen to as much music as I used to without a commute anymore, but my wife and I watch a ton of YouTube. And it’s mildly more difficult to block ads on the Roku too. I know pi holes exist, but my wife plays those freemium games that give you currency for watching ads and blocking all ads will break shit for her and then I have to fix it. Someone will tell me there’s an easy solve I’m sure, but honestly the subscription is just way easier and I really don’t mind paying. $16/mo for a family plan is 100% worth it to just not deal with all of that.
Have you not heard of “The Great Enshitification “ going on?
Also, search on YouTube has been utterly broken for years. You get at most 4 or 5 results and then a random series of videos that are completely unrelated to my search query.
It’s not a bug, it’s a feature. If you have to click through 10 shitty videos before finding the one you’re looking for, that’s 10x more engagement to sell to advertisers.
An idea for YouTube: make a way to watch ads separately and earn minutes, and then to spend earned minutes on watching actual videos without ads, lol.
Don’t give them ideas. If they had a reasonable number of ads, it wouldn’t be a problem, but they are absolutely out of control.
So that you can leave ads running on your computer while you go do other stuff? Doesn’t seem like a good deal for Google.
It didn’t work out so well for Perk when they paid you to watch ads. But then again I was making $100 a week from my phone farm back in the day. Had 30 phones earning points at a time.
Google doesn’t care about eyeballs, just watch time, ad dollars, and click through rates.
But advertisers care, and they are the true customers Alphabet has to please.
How do people not know about ublock origin/sponsorblock? Lol
Even with ublock, the search is completely useless always mixing barely relevant videos with ones that have nothing to do with your terms at all.
From: https://snee.la/stash/#misc (disclaimer: this is my website)
Relevant YouTube Search: Youtube search results become super irrelevant after 6-8 results. Substitute your search query in the %s part of the url (from: /u/FrezNelson on reddit) to remove them.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%25s&sp=CAASAhAB
The ad industry is truly one of the most reprehensible and insidious things humans have ever invited unto themselves. It’s beyond dystopian how much of our ability to move through the world is now contingent on us allowing our brains to be bukkaked with ads that are designed specifically to bypass our rationality and embed themselves in the very fabric of our beings like psychological rootkits.
I believe conspiracism is the root of all evil. But ads are gaining on conspiracism like they’re Usain Bolt being chased by an angry bee.
I have to hand it to those soulless fucking devils though, they might have pulled off one of the most brazen but successful mindfucks I’ve ever seen: they convinced lots of people that seeing ads about topics they were interested in was some sort of concession from the ad industry, like they were begrudgingly implementing measures to make ads “relevant” to us, and that we were somehow gaming the system because of it. It was a “win” for us to have the ads being served into our eyeballs and ears be tailor-made for us. “I’m so sick of seeing ads for products I don’t even care about! I wish there was a way to make the ads be relevant to ME” said no cunt ever. But they managed to convinced us that everyone else was saying that, and that we’d won some sort of victory against them to have their advertising have the precision of a sniper rifle, versus what it was before, like some sort of shotgun fired from 150 feet away in the dark.
An entire species of marks.
I have been using adblockers for decades already. And it’s been that long since I had to see ads. Occasionally some site will have some way of it getting through but even then I have the plugin scan and it sometimes can start blocking it. Essentially, my internet has been 95% ad-free and frankly I am surprised when I encounter anyone who doesn’t do the same.
Remember that time when YT started showing banner ads below the video? Yeah, that was like just after the dinosaurs were wiped out and before blockchains became a thing. I was a long time ago, ok. Anyway, that’s when I was about to quit watching YT, but then I suddenly discovered the wonderful world of ad-blocking. Turns out, YT became watchable again.
I’ve used an adblocker for ages as well, though I do wish content creators on YouTube could get some passive non-membership revenue from me without me having to disable my adblock and look directly into the Ark of the Covenant. I could get Premium, but at that point, I feel like I’ve negotiated with a terrorist.
If they have a Join in addition to subscribe that directly gives them revenue (of course not until after YouTube has taken like 80%). Also always see if they have a patreon account. I occasionally contribute to some very talented people.
For sure, that’s what I meant by membership. There’s just so many different creators I watch, I can’t afford to support them all directly. Maybe I’ll make some playlists to play on the TV with ads while I’m out of the house.
Yeah I agree there are tons and it’s not your responsibility to support them. My personal approach is if I stumble upon someone I find to be extremely talented and who is clearly working very hard at something and has been persevering for a long time, I then check to see if they’re already being helped by people. If not that’s when I consider contributing a little.
I mean I have my own family to support so it’s just a little bit here and there but it’s something. Mostly I consider it when I feel that the world is better with their work in it than without.
Most of them earn more from Patreon and merch, that’s how you support them greatly, not by watching and clicking ads.
Like, even the creators themselves tell you you can support them on Patreon or through their merch, they never tell you to get Premium, Join or click ads, as they don’t help much.
brains to be bukkaked with ads that are designed specifically to bypass our rationality and embed themselves in the very fabric of our beings like psychological rootkits.
and like 90% of people think they’re completely impervious to ads lol
HEY! YOU!!! JOIN THE NAVY!!!
Damn Superliminal advertising. It’s why I joined the Navy.
But, but, how will people know about our product?!😩
I feel your vitriol and agree with it 100%.
When politicians of both parties say shit like “Americans like their private health insurance”… I kind of die a little.
When a random podcast from somewhere else in the world has a local ad injected into it by the app I downloaded it with…same.
When the godamn fucking pitcher’s mound has a CGI ad superimposed over it…same.
We’re going to advertise and conspicuously consume ourselves into extinction. So there’s that I guess.
PREACH
My god that was well written. We should be friends.
That and all the people who say shit like “But I have to watch the ads to support the creators”, like there wasn’t 70 years of TV advertisements preceding this generation. I know I’m talking to a kid when someone says that. No one thought they were stealing from Burt Reynolds if they didn’t buy a Chrysler or tampons. It’s absurd.
The link between conspiracies and ads is way stronger than that. The ad industry really went into high gear following WWII when the people working on pumping out propaganda to drive their own side of the war stepped up the game by applying psychology, new media, and a bigger budget.
Those people and techniques then moved to the commercial market when the war ended and applied their trade to peddle us the crap their customers wanted to sell. Make us feel bad if we don’t buy product X and go on an endless consumption treadmill to try to feel good and adequate about ourselves.
It is despicable and even worse with ads targeting children.
I like the way you English.
Real homies don’t let homies view YouTube without proper adblockers turned on
But you’re stealing from content creators
As so often, you steal from the capitalist, not the workers
Sarcasm, surely.
Are people really ok with this?
What are you gonna do about it?
If you use Brave browser, you’ll get zero ads and you don’t have to use an add-on. Give it a try.
What happened is that you forgot to install an ad blocker.
yes, but their results are trash now. shows you 5 results, then 10 or things you’ve probably already seen completely unrelated to the search, then random “trending” garbage.
There is a neat Firefox plugin which makes visits to yubbtub more tolerable by getting rid of unrelated suggestions:
RYS — Remove YouTube SuggestionsIt has a lot of options to tailor it to your needs.
This is not ad-blocking related. The search results on YouTube are literal trash and there’s nothing we can do about it.
Oh right. How amazing that one of my highest upmodded comment is the one where my comment is full of shit
Same with Google. Their search results are a joke now.
