That would be a nice vault to loot.
Yeah, like these attention whores will stay in their bunkers and not come outside, like the ppl constructing them wont target them first to get themselves a fortresss, thats what id do if I made them and we had an apocalypse, id leave myself multiple backdoors
thier BODYGUARD will be the ones to turn on them first, either tha tor thier harems , or thier slaves. take a lesson from indian govt in the 70s, when the ghandi(ghandis family) govt was in power, the pm was murdered(blown up with a bomb) by her sikh bodyguard because the pm decided to persecute them.
this is whats going to happen to these billionaires, they would have to be paranoid as putin to escape potential threats.
I read a book called Lucifer’s Hammer by Larry Niven many years ago about a comet hitting the Earth. There was a scene in the book, after the impact, where a rich guy manages to finally reach a place up in the mountains where he has supplies stashed, only to find that his employees have claimed it for themselves and won’t let him in because he’s basically useless in the new world of survival.
If you were working for Huffman or Musk or any of the rest of them, and a there was a huge society ending disaster, would you let them in when they showed up or would you just shoot them down with their own guns? I know what I would do. I can’t imagine anyone letting them in.
That is such a great book.
And yeah, fuck them. I would absolutely never let them in.
Now ask yourself why these guys are suddenly so obsessed with AI, chatbots, and getting rid of roles previously staffed by humans.
I hope the virtual doorman hallucinates that they’re a radioactive dog or some shit
lol
A delivery guy I know couldn’t make his (scheduled, daily) pickup at an Amazon warehouse because the robot security didn’t recognize him that day (despite being the usual guy, with a badge).
So yeah, that probably will be the most likely scenario.
Which is just a thousand times fucking funnier to me given that i’m someone with actual technical knowledge who works in the industry as opposed to a kholed nepo baby with parental funds.
Didn’t read the book but I get the scenario after a hypothetical world changing disaster, it’s going to be a ratrace for high ground. It’s a false sense of security to believe hoarding cash or guns or vehicle would be your ticket out of it, it’s called pride and hubris.
A motor/car can’t swim. Weapons are a sign of hostility. Cash could be useless. Even having access to an escape satellite doesn’t guarantee you’ll be hit by space trash or cosmic plasma streams. The Road is a example how depressing the aftermath really is.
The Road is a good example; this thread also has me thinking about the Amos and Clarissa arc after the meteors hit in The Expanse.
I had gone quite a long time without thinking about The Road.
Day ruined.
It doesn’t even have to be so combative.
Imagine being thrown together with 99 other survivors of the apocalypse and 1 of them was musk.
There’s going to be medical people and trades people and farmers and naturalists and even people with governance experience from community groups et cetera.
Imagine how utterly useless a billionaire would be in that context. Their entitlement would make them worse than useless. Like I’d rather be stuck with nanna who is just a drain on resources rather than someone who’s only skill is self interest.
Nanna is the keeper of the stories and the only person who has the entire new testament memorised.
Cory Doctorow’s Masque of the Red Death novella (named after Poe’s story of the same name) explores this theme a lot, especially how short sighted the rich can be and how well the poor band together to rebuild.
Here’s the free audio book:
Ooh, free Edgar Allen Poe book? Are you trying to be my new best friend?
well it’s not EAP, its CD - but using an EAP title. Sure we can be BFFs, but ill need a credit card number and PIN code
Ah, I shouldn’t have skimmed your post. Thanks again, I’ll give it a listen.
Being hired as security at a billionaire’s Hawaiian apocalypse bunker has got to be the best job imaginable. You get paid to live in a tropical paradise in case The Worst should happen. If The Worst actually does happen, you just go inside the bunker and lock the doors, and if the billionaire shows up, you don’t let him in. Easy peasy.
If your way of making money makes you really fear people will be mad at you, you should be asking yourself what’s wrong with your way of making money. That is, if you care. But if you don’t care don’t whine.
I know which compound I’m targeting first.
I think they know the system is unfair. They are just greedy fucks who’d prefer to squeeze it completely dry to benefit themselves.
Capitalism being about companies competing to provide value to society is a myth we tell. Otherwise no one would have a problem.
The crappy thing, is that while they plan on a possible collapse of soceity, they could just as easily plan on what to do about all the displaced workers created, by all their technical solutions seeking problems.
AI isn’t the problem. AI in a capitalist system is the problem. People don’t need to do jobs that aren’t necessary any more to survive unless you are in a capitalist system that puts profit over society. People need to be taken care of regardless of their “value” to the capitalist machine. Communism focuses on allocating resources to all people because people deserve to be taken care of as part of a functioning society. If we didn’t live in a harsh capitalist system of exploitation of labor, AI would be seen as a way to further enhance society and would be developed responsibly.
AI isn’t the problem. Greedy, power-hungry people are. Tale as old as time (the saying will be even more true after AI solves time travel).
Capitalism encourages and rewards greed. Societies needs to organize around elevation of the overall quality of life, not around a system that rewards our worst impulses.
Communism has never existed and never will, however the systems that communists implement inevitably focus on allocating resources to a well-connected elite.
It’s almost like we should strike now before they have a chance to run and hide.
Insane strategy, Silicon Valley execs. Sell the thing that you believe is gonna cause the apocalypse so you can afford to have apocalypse insurance. That definitely needed to happen…
This is it… how about these dudes stopped preparing for the apocalypse that they themselves are causing, and instead changed the patienter they’ve created thus preventing said apocalypse from taking place…
That would require empowering the poors and they can’t be having that
But then number go down
People are crazy and we are ruled by the crazy
Rushkoff wrote a book about consulting for these billionaire peppers.
https://rushkoff.com/books/survival-of-the-richest-escape-fantasies-of-the-tech-billionaires/
That’s really interesting thanks
My library had copies available in ebooks and audiobooks, too
Multiple motorcycles? What’s he gonna do, ride them all at once?
Obviously him (and all the other oligarchs behaving like this) are counting on their entourage of sycophants following them. I don’t think they have completely considered the fact that all of their untangible wealth will be worthless in an apocalypse situation, and instead they will just turn into golden geese sitting on a pile of stuff that everyone else, including their former sycophants, would like to sit on instead.
There was some guy that got to interview a bunch of billionaires for some reason and their views on an apocalypse situation are eye opening.
making guards wear disciplinary collars of some kind in return for their survival. Or maybe building robots to serve as guards and workers – if that technology could be developed “in time”.
He means cylon guards, and we know how that turned out
If you have a bunch of motorcycles going in a line and you ride another motorcycle on top of that line like a conveyor belt then you will be going twice as fast as the highest speed the single motorcycle could go.
More wheels is more faster, just like legs. That’s why horses are faster than people. This Huffman guy might be onto something
If you stack them enough you can approach light speed as well!
How’s this prick planning to reach the bunker in case of societal collapse/apocalypse?
I’m sure he’ll find unpaid volunteers to carry his ass, that he’ll sell out once they reach the bunker.
/s
The really funny thing about Spez is that he’s far from a power player in the tech scene, nowhere near the likes of Musk and Zuckerberg. But he so desperately wants to be that he actually just looks sad and pathetic in the process.
Wtf is he going to do with his stockpile of motorbikes during the apocalypse? Start a Mad Max biker crew? What a fkn loser lol.
He’s just going to the next tier of cuck that provides bikes for the raiders that get in his bunker. They should keep him alive as a manservant when his little apocalypse plan falls apart.
He will flee to musk’s compound in Texas at the first sign of trouble, trying to be part of his harem
I can just imagine this as a scene in a fallout game. Lonely old rich fuck hidden away for years. You ring the intercom and he’s so excited to hear another voice that he invites you in. Starts spewing shit opinions. You eventually realize he could’ve helped stop the apocalypse but built the bunker and profited instead. Look at all the loot. Inform him he can either become a smear on the wall or caretaker of your new place.
Little french maid costume?
And a large pineapple
I just want to know the evidence for the motorcycles. Is it really a “stockpile” of them, or is he a rich bitch and likes motorcycles like jay leno likes cars?
I agree. Many people are imagining, “instead of using his vast wealth to fix the world, he dedicates all his money and mental energy to an elaborate bunker that will ensure his survival in a specific apocalyptic scenario he believes is likely to happen.”
It might be more like, "amongst all the random wealthy-person shit he’s bought, there are guns and motorcycles (because he thinks they are cool) as well as a pantry full of canned food (because everyone should have an emergency kit and you never know).
But I could be wrong.
He did what musk ask if him on moderating reddit twice, which let 2 waves of massive bans, plus the ongoing shadow and. And I heard they changed something. Recently to catch even the more sophisticated ban eveders
If you’re in a bunker how many places can you ride your guns? Realistically.
At least i know where to find the motorcycles, guns and food when the apocalypse comes
