Trump wins and we have camps by the end of 2025. We should expect the executions to start shortly after
The camps are already built, they just aren’t being used yet.
I’m starting to see the whole “endless cycle of suffering” thing now and how it came to be. The absolute madness of generational amnesia is agony.
I’m more in the “human nature doesn’t change under any system, and our incredibly flawed collective ability to judge someone’s character is all that ever keeps us safe” phase.
Won’t be the last time we’ll see a fascist almost take it all… Will happen again somewhere in the world, and will keep being a periodic occurrence.
Its the people who think it’s not that bad yet who doom us every single time
“we can yet still make more money”
It’s why education is so important. It’s also why the rich (a.k.a. the Republican Party) want to gut education. An uneducated population is so much easier to manipulate - why reign in the Supreme Court, the 1%, or the government when minorities are the cause for all of your problems? It’s the same tactic that’s been used and nauseum for literally millennia. It’s tried and true, and only education will stop it. Hell, global education is the reason we are even in such a golden age right now…
Rein in*
Thanks mate!
Raining*
Uh, no?
Rain King
Um, yeah?
No. @Alteon@lemmy.world said:
why reign in the Supreme Court
This is, based on my understanding of the whole context, an error. And not just a simple typo or harmless mistaken homophone. It actually fundamentally changes the meaning of that phrase. They intended it to say “why put controls on the Supreme Court”. But the words actually used mean “why rule as a member of the Supreme Court”. It took me 3 or 4 rereads of the comment to understand that the hyphen that preceded that phrase was meant to switch to a sarcastic tone about switching blame, rather than asking a question about Republican goals (“why go to the effort of controlling the Supreme Court…if we’re not going to abuse those powers to keep the population dumb”, or something along those lines, is what I was expecting)
So I suggested the correction: “rein in”.
@31337@sh.itjust.works was just…I dunno, making a shitty joke, I guess? It doesn’t add anything to anyone’s conversation.
I distinctly remember the first time I looted the reigns of chaos after farming it for months on like 5 different alts, it was reign, not rain
I’ve watched it happen my whole life without knowing. The lessons of the past can’t be passed on to future generations. They must be relearned. I’ve seen it just trying to teach my own kids, but it’s global.
I am slowly giving up hope of politics; Hitler is after all the Chosen One of his people. I do not believe that he is in the least bit shaky, I am slowly beginning to think that his regime can really still last for decades. There is so much lethargy in the German people and so much immorality and above all so much stupidity.Victor Klemperer, I Will Bear Witness 1933-1941: A Diary of the Nazi Years
Imagine actually living in that era, not knowing how things ended as we do today. Scary.
The existential dread from the past is the same existential dread of today. We also do not know how things might turn out.
It’s not the same. Similar but not the same. Things were definitely farther along back then. Much closer to tyrannical world domination.
Holy fuck they made signs about it?
If you crop out the shit-tier political party holding the rally and handing out these signs nobody will be able to tell which party it is and your both sides argument won’t have a single dissident!
Genius!
Mass deportation? Start with the ones holding the signs. Keep going till there are none left.
Well that’s just unfair on whatever countries they’d go to
Only 29.2% of the world surface is land. Seems weird to focus on that area when deliberating where to send them.
Who said anything about sending them to another country?
Toss them on a boat, and only fuel it up enough to make it halfway to their destination.
I heard the great garbage patch in pacific is nice this time of the year.
Huge stretch
Saltines, saltines far as the eye can see.
Okay, yes, sure. This looks like a prelude to a holocaust. But have you considered the fact that Anne Frank was breaking the law?
It’s ok though because Anne Frank’s diary has been banned in several states so there is no conflict.
What states? I’m curious
A quick Google search gives Texas, Florida, and Virginia.
Do they mean to say deport themselves? Isn’t America a land of immigrants essentially at this point?
I bet many of these folks have have Irish ancestors who escaped poverty and the famine. That’s like telling people to go back to their poverty-stricken land. Which is impossible considering that climate-change is only creating economic disasters many developing countries.
I say this and will say it again: there are no such thing as illegal immigrants anymore in the face of climate-change.
Undocumented Immigrants ≠ Illegal Immigrants. It isn’t illegal to be human anywhere.
Ethnic cleansing
I thought this was a trump quote while reading it. One of his rambling lies. It was actually shocking to see it attributed to Anne Frank.
Is this real?
Apparently it is.
Mass Deportation Now!” declared the signs at the Republican National Convention
https://www.cbs58.com/news/mass-deportation-now-signs-on-display-at-milwaukee-rnc-spark-conversation
I had to look into it because all I was finding was still images or articles that talked about it but didn’t have any pictures of it once you clicked into it. It’s unfortunately real, this vid has a segment with Rachel Maddow and Jacob Soboroff at the RNC convention last month (where this took place) talking about it and showing them.
That video clip was the only thing I could find and it’s on a horrible website, I don’t suggest going beyond looking at that video. I spent the past hour trying to find the segment on another site but no one seems to have it (if someone finds the same segment let me know so I can update the link and remove the other one).
Never seen so many Karen’s in one Pic. You just know these are type of women that think their word is final. They believe they know all
Little do they know they’ve been duped by the biggest conman of all time, trump. A man that wins votes by instilling fear. A conman that’s voter base are the most easily conned folks on earth. They will believe anything as long as it’s back by some form of fear. Some of the dumbest people on earth unable to think for themselves
These type of women know they are second hand citizens in their homes, they know that they are oppressed, but the thought of power having on a lesser group of people ( that they think those people are) is huge, they want to have some sort of power and they’re just getting that from maga.
A man that wins votes by instilling fear.
This is one of those things you can honestly “both sides”. Trump tries to get votes by instilling fear of immigrants and trans, Dems try to get votes by instilling fear of Trump. Because neither for the most part are willing to present a positive reason to vote for them that would remotely get enough votes to win.
You think fear of immigrants and fear of fascism are comparably illegitimate? Oof
I think fear that if a Republican wins office it will be the end of democracy and we will collapse into a single party totalitarian system is probably unfounded, yes.
I suspect the Democrat party feels the same way behind closed doors, otherwise we wouldn’t have heard their candidate at the time (this was before Biden quit) say “I’ll feel, as long as I gave it my all and I did [as] good a job as I know I can do, that’s what this is about." That’s not a thing you say if you genuinely believe that this election is the last chance to save the country from becoming an authoritarian fascist state.
But really that’s besides the point - the point is that both sides actively engage in trying to terrify their voters into voting for them because neither can present a reason why we should want to vote for them in remotely enough numbers to win otherwise.
I’m confused why these people are most concerned about immigrants more than anything else.
If you deport them, what next? It’s not gonna solve all your problems.
You wanna know why? Because they are a group that can’t defend themselves. Fascists need enemies. If it is not immigrants, it is the “transexuals and gays”. They need a “Snowball” that is the source of every woe.
Watch this. https://youtu.be/vGAqYNFQdZ4?si=sZSPK3ELrY35xrFn The 1947 US Department of Defense can explain it better than I can.
They’ve been told that it will, they’ve not thought that far ahead
Same reason other groups have been blamed over the years. In Nazi Germany, the Jews were blamed for basically everything - the loss of the war, inequality, etc. MAGA is doing the same thing, but with immigrants.
Why? Blaming someone else for your problems is a lot easier than understanding what’s actually going on and going after that. Amusingly, MAGA leaders are using it as a diversionary tactic as they put policies in place that benefit the wealthiest. Pitting the poor against one another prevents them from seeing what’s actually happening.
Blaming someone else for your problems is a lot easier than understanding what’s actually going on
I would argue it isn’t just a matter of making things “easy”. Migration is a symptom of larger socio-economic and ecological changes.
Drug wars, crack downs on native rights and labor movements, climate-change induced economic collapse, and the wholesale destruction of local communities through industrial development have created a population of tens of millions of displaced people.
Even when you understand “what’s going on” there’s very little you can do about it. But one thing Americans can do and have gotten really good at is building big gated communities to keep poor people out while still exploiting their cheap labor.
The urge to arrest and deport large numbers of migrants is, at its root, the urge to build a more advanced and comprehensive gated community. One that can still exploit the labor of America’s southern neighbors without sharing any of the infrastructure we’ve developed to make life pleasant in the states.
And the urge is deepened as the prior generation’s investment in infrastructure shows visible signs of collapse. With fewer functioning highways, aquifers, generators, and public services, the American impulse is to start expelling the poorest among us in order to horde the balance.
Pitting the poor against one another prevents them from seeing what’s actually happening.
Pitting the middle class against the poor promises to guarantee another generation of relative prosperity. This is a kind of ultimatum issued by the very rich, and not unique to a particular party. You either get on the right side of immigration, or we take away your privileges and expel you, too.
The fight between Dems and Repubs is less about whether we do a mass expulsion (its easy to find homeless roundups in a dozen major blue cities from Houston to NYC to Chicago) and more about who we target for atrocity.
I’m confused why these people are most concerned about immigrants more than anything else.
Spend a few hours on the right-wing news circuit and you’ll discover everything from serial murder to economic downturns to my favorite candidate losing the election to the price of milk is directly related to Illegal Immigrants Breaking The Law. They’re all voting. They’re sneaking into the country to do horrible crimes. They’re destroying everything about this country that’s noble and honest and good. They are dismantling the English language. They dress stupid. They’re doing Michael Bay style action movie heists and car chases. They’re impregnating your daughter right this instant and that’s why she won’t return your phone calls.
And they are all working at the behest of a (((shadowy evil organization))) of far-left communist radicals who have been plotting for the last 500 years to destroy American, end Christianity, and force white people into slavery under the yoke of Chinese Muslim College Leftist Atheist Satanist Pedophiles.
If you’re not worried about immigrants, you hate America.
They are their problems. Not like they can admit that though. If you eliminate all the immigrants then they will just target another group. Just like they already are. The root cause of their problems is and always has been themselves and they are too stupid to see it.
Mass deportation would cause catastrophic problems in the United States. Mainly to red states.
It’s also a logistical nightmare.
How do you get millions of people out of the country in a timely fashion.
They’d need some place to put all of them for sorting, some kind of camp where they could concentrate the population.
Likely they’d just be sitting around all day, but thanks to the 14th amendment, they can be put to work for free.
And it would take forever to get all these people over the border, and they could just come right back over. They’d need some kind of long term solution, something final to prevent more immigrants from coming over.
Yeah this is gonna be bad.
It sounds like they want a final solution.
