Inception bitch!

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    They will follow us everywhere. If the medium is commercial, the capitalists will capture it. If its public, the extreme social interest groups will capture it.

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      “Extreme social interest” like universal healthcare / basic income, human rights, being anti genocide, pro-human rights, basic privacy rights… list goes on.

      My good fellow, extremists are not here shitposting, they’re running the biggest economies of the world. World’s richest man did 2 nazi salutes a couple weeks ago. Twitter is full of nazis. Spotify is hosting Andrew Tate podcasts.

      “Public/open source = bad” is exactly what those people want the public to think, because it can’t be monetized and easily controlled.

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    Well other than politics reddit is quite good. It’s the best for asking stuff about unis, degrees and jobs

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      Which part is your favourite? The ads every few posts, the lack of meaningful discussion, or the constant barrage of notifications with no purpose?

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        I think OP means “the mediocre, least bad intersection between critical mass and topical discussion.”

        Like, you can probably find users/subs about universities/fields and actually find people in them to respond. Lemmy is great, but good luck finding a mass of discussion around a niche location/field.

        Reddit is horrible and deteriorating, yes, but still.

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        Being banned for saying your opinion is the worst part

        I was banned for saying my country needs gender neutral laws

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    Lmao well I found this place cause they won’t let me on Reddit anymore. They didn’t appreciate my colourful thoughts on Musk.

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      Honestly you could get banned for upvoting someone who stated someone seemed agitated and should try following dear leaders advice and take a shot of ivermecrin, a shot of bleach, and take a nap.

      Watching reddits fall over the span of 12 years was certainly a thing.

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      The fact that this is being upvoted so much I think demonstrates a big misunderstanding of how the fediverse works.

      Nobody owns Lemmy and if a instance does something shitty it costs hardly anything to change instances. Nobody owns the lemmy software, and other softwares like mbin/piefed exist too with the same content.

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        Isn’t that the exact same argument for Twitter? If Twitter gets shitty, people will just leave? Because I feel like we’re not really seeing that.

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          No, not at all, twitter is not decentralized, with a lemmy instance, if you leave, you lose nothing at all. With twitter, you can’t take the content or your account

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            Not quite accurate. If you leave an instance, you do lose any posts or comments you had. Not a big loss, but there is that sense of investment in an account and reputation.

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              It’s entirely possible in the future, since ActivityPub accounts can be “forwarded”. It’s a little clunky but look at Mastodon.

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          There is only one Twitter whereas anyone can start “a Lemmy” (instance). I am using a different instance than you, for example. So if mine enshittifies I can go somewhere else and still have access to the broader network.

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          No because Twitter is a walled ecosystem, you can’t move to Bluesky and interact with people on twitter for example.

          With federated stuff you can move and still interact with people on other instances.

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        if .world says being a minor is bannable suddenly there’s no minors anywhere on Lemmy. A minor example that is understandable, sure, but it’s just to show that a single large instance can cause a lot of change if they decide to.

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        The protocol itself could surely start its journey if enshittification? In which case different, possibly incompatible, branches would spawn fragmenting the Lemmy space. Still miles better than the whole thing burning to the ground. But with no shareholders looming around (yet) we can hope it won’t come to that.

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            I guess the closest I know of is Maps.me and Organic Maps? Maps.me was open source, but got purchased and enshittified, so Organic Maps was forked from it. And now there is some drama with the Organic Maps shareholders/co-founders, so unless that is (or has it already been?) sorted out we’re likely to see another fork of it.

            Please correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t the main dev(s) members of lemmy.ml? So I can certainly see how differing political views could skew the development of the main branch of Lemmy.

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              That’s a bad example because it got forked and it wasn’t an actual problem?

              Please correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t the main dev(s) members of lemmy.ml[3]? So I can certainly see how differing political views could skew the development of the main branch of Lemmy.

              People say this all the time but never can give even one example of a potential problem. Preemptive forking sounds insane to me. The notion that lemmy might enshittify because you don’t like their politics is also ridiculous when their politics are anti-capitalist… aka the politics that are least likely to enshittify.

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              The organic maps founders seem to have convinced the volunteers that a private company would be best to manage an open source project. The community got duped hard.

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                I agree. And luckily for Lemmy and all other FOSS projects the worst that can happen is a fork of the project is created with a potentially fractured community.

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      Not really. It’s not a centralized platform by design - unless you’re talking about the flagship instances, which are a common problem with federated projects

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      It’d be pretty difficult, any instances that start that shit would be defederated with a quickness, but I don’t want to be too optimistic lol

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      Mods censor EVERYTHING

      This is not a Reddit issue, this is a “subreddit I’m subscribed to” issue. I’m not seeing that problem.

      The problem I AM seeing, though, that’s ACTUALLY making it unusable is how they fucked up the latest UI redesign. Ctrl+Enter no longer works, spellcheck is force-disabled when using the Markdown editor, posts no longer open in a panel, you have to open each one in a separate tab or reload the main feed every single time, everything is slow and clunky… It’s just badly written, badly optimised and badly designed overall.

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      I once said on /r/nintendo in the context of Nintendo increasing the price of games that even if you enjoy their products, there’s no excuse to defend their anti consumer practices and that there was way too much “corporate boot licking” among Nintendo fans. It wasn’t a statement directed at anyone specifically, but I got a temporary ban for “derogatory name calling.”

      Like…I fully understand it’s going to be a sub of Nintendo fans, and I also consider myself a fan of a lot of their games, but if you aren’t allowed to be critical…then banning me for that post kinda proved my point, lol.

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      Dude im so tired of bans and creepy tracking that ensures you cant engage on the site… I do enjoy the reddit user friendly platform but im so sick of the overreach from the mods… i have had an account up for a while that just got permanently banned because I accidentally engaged with a sub i forgot had banned my og account… and because of that old account that had an IP ban it was somehow tied to my new account made a whole year later! Even though i use duckduckgo with full protection and cleared all my data… but Im done… its not worth the headache…and trying to use lemmy world now feels better. Still getting used to it here

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        your comment has been automatically removed because you didn’t choose the right flair.

        your comment has been automatically removed because it doesn’t adhere to “fuckshitstack” guidelines

        your comment has been automatically removed because it didn’t kiss the mods’ asses enough

        your comment has been automatically removed, to become verified, take a photo of your driver’s license, your social security card, and yourself holding both of them, in each arm. SUBMISSIONS WITH BOTH CARDS IN ONE HAND WILL BE DELETED! PLEASE, READ THE STICKY.

        I fucking hate Reddit.

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          So spot on! And i needed a place to vent. I’m glad lemmyworld lets us do that. But I’m so done with reddit. They leave up absolutely toxic awful comments and users that are actually bots, but then punish and route out real users… I didn’t really believe the dead internet theory until i realized how much reddit targets real users…

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        DuckDuckGo doesn’t hide your IP. Your IP is a fundamental networking number used to route traffic to your computer. It can also change for many home internet service providers over time, so it’s a bit stupid of Reddit to use them, though they might be using more advanced fingerprinting mechanisms and merely saying IP.

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      I got an instant permanent auto ban for joking about pushing someone down the stairs. It was ‘supporting violence’. I appealed and it was auto rejected. It’s become absurd.

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      Not even censoring, also outright stealing for karma farming. I’ve had perfectly normal photos being criticized as not within the rules for bullshit reasons. An alcoholic drink aggressively marketed in two “variations” for men in women in pointlessly gendered was taken down with the bullshit excuse, that men and women have different metabolisms so it wasn’t pointless. A week later there was a post about this drink with a lot of upvotes and my exact photo from our local supermarket. It was posted by one of the very active accounts. Mods are taking down promising content in some subs just to post it themselves.

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      I dropped Reddit when it was announced that you could be banned for upvoting something.

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      Their threshold for “calls to violence” is ridiculous. Got a ban for commenting I’d slap someone just like the person who got pranked slapped the person who jump scared them.

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        My ban was for saying there should be mass protests outside the building in which that American judge was held and that these protests should prevent anyone from entering or leaving until that judge is released. Apparently, that’s “violence”, even though it’s self-defence against the violence of a fascist state.

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        My ban. A bloke purposely ran over a 12 year old boy that was riding his bike. Seems a group of youths had verbally hassled this bloke so this was his reaction. Thankfully it was caught on film. This happened about 50 miles from me here in Australia.

        Well anyway my comment was that if he had run over one of my two boys he might have ended up in hospital, there might be broken bones and I might end up in prison. I mean it was an angry knee jerk reaction to a horrible situation.

        Well I got a site wide ban for threatening violence. I didn’t actually threaten anybody. No warning, no temp ban, not just banned from that one sub. Appealed but it fell in deaf ears.

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    Reddit is like CNN, which is Fox-lite, while xitter is ( oan and newsmax)

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        I mean even if they are, the software is open source and lemmy is made to work with ActivityPup, an open protocol. That is what matters at the end of the day.

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          This is what’s insane to me.

          Option 1: locked software owned by billionaires who can control the narrative and remove anything they don’t like

          Option 2: open-source software anybody can use, coded by people with extreme opinions

          It’s pretty clear which one is superior

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      I do not see how Lemmy helps with anything other than allowing people another excuse for escapism and scrolling on the internet over actually developing life skills, seeing new sights, socializing with humans, getting better at understanding people, and actually making an effort to communicate with others, doing some small part to make the world better.

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        Link aggregate sites do perform an actual function outside of the use case of doom scrolling. It’s a way that I engage with my niche hobby groups, aggregate news, and troubleshoot niche tech issues. There’s a reason why you Google a question then add “reddit” at the end.

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        I think the ‘problem’ the meme is referencing is supporting centralized social media run by corporations. I think the ‘problem’ you are talking about is more along the lines of tech addiction. Something can fix one problem without fixing every problem.

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          Sure, and my point is maybe we all need to put away the internet entirely a little more often, it’s literally killing us and the world.

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              I love me a really well-made grilled-cheese sandwich, like with all the fixings and fancy bread. Truly one of life’s pleasures.

              But if gets moldy, even if it’s no fault of my own, I will probably throw that shit away and pick another option. (This also kills the spread of the mold.)

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              the internet can be a great place if you know where to look. the problem you are referring to is cellphones and general 24/7 connectivity. you can still get called with no data service, anywhere anytime. so ppl… put away the phones, tablets, computers, gaming devices. I challenge anyone to go off grid for a week. sadly I know I can’t.

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        This shits so funny bruh, stop using social media as your excuse for not developing skills, yeah its addictive but you make an active choice to not delete these apps, if I want to get shit done I delete tiktok, there you go, no longer distracted by easy scroll dopamine. Went i want a break from learning skills, seeing new sights, I redload it, wtf do you think social media is, there is less small talk and more proper socializing on lemmy/reddit type platforms than any other

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        with reddit the CEO ad shareholders control what gets promoted or silenced; with Lemmy they don’t have that power. that’s how it helps

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    Neither of these are true lol. Someone has to tell the right wingers they deserve the death penalty for treason.

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      Keeping away from X is more of a health thing honestly,

      I know at least for me, it leaves me worse off reading through posts on there even if I’ve tried to fight them

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        That’s legit. If this post were a call for good self care and mental health, I wouldn’t have commented. I tire quite easily of individualistic solutions to social and institutional problems.