• RogueBanana@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    20 days ago

    What’s the difference between the two? I haven’t used reddit since the api shit and I don’t remember seeing 2 separate messaging options before that.

    • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
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      16 days ago

      private messages as its called, when you directly send a message to someone, nobody else can see it. a chat is public and its possible to be join in the chat.

    • CheezyWeezle@lemmy.world
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      20 days ago

      By removing the language of “private” from the feature they can now sell your data without having to tell you about it

      • RogueBanana@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        20 days ago

        I did guess that much but I am still interested on what others were talking about and why is chat worse than PM, feature wise.

    • kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de
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      19 days ago

      The official Reddit app is an exercise in travesty. Any third party client for either Android or iOS in the past was better the official solution is even now. It’s slow, bloated and UI looks like it’s designed for toddlers in mind.

        • kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de
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          19 days ago

          I am on Boost. It’s a one time purchase for Android Atleast. The dev is same behind Boost for Reddit(now deprecated) and it implements a similar UI as the previous Reddit Client.

          Of course, as you said, there are many FOSS solutions as well. I have heard good praise for Voyager and I think Atleast couple of more clients like Jerboa also exist on F-Droid.

        • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
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          19 days ago

          I’ve just been using the site in my browser for the couple of years or so I’ve been on Lemmy. I’ve thought about trying one of the apps but meh. The web interface is so well mobile-optimized as it is

    • brax@sh.itjust.works
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      20 days ago

      No, I had my chat hidden because I primarily used old Reddit, and so I pretty much never looked a it. Made 0 sense to me. If somebody wanted something in private, they can send me a DM.

      I didn’t even realize people used the chat on there. When it rolled out, it was almost exclusively bots lol

    • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
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      20 days ago

      No, they’re two different communication methods. To be fair, it does seem weird to continue maintaining two forms of DM, but also I liked the old school DM style vs the newer realtime message style, personally. I guess I like the distance from strangers.

  • seven_phone@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    One of the first things Google did when it bought YouTube was to remove direct messaging, don’t want people wasting time talking to each other when they should be watching ads.

  • brax@sh.itjust.works
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    21 days ago

    Lmao chat is one of the dumbest features they ever rolled out.

    I love how their attitude is always “we made this useless feature, and instead of ditching it were going to get rid of what people preferred and force the hated alternative!”

    Once again proving that the Reddit admins absolutely hate the fact that people use Reddit. They should just shit the site down already.

    • taco@piefed.socialEnglish
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      21 days ago

      were going to get rid of what people preferred and force the hated alternative!

      It’s not always the hated alternative that wins, hence why we’re here right now.

    • makyo@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      20 days ago

      I hated both features honestly. I’m there to converse in public, anything you say you can add in a public reply to one of my comments. If it was ever used for honest chat or messaging, I never saw it.

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
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        16 days ago

        i Used PM alot before Trumps first term, and somewhat during him to. i stopped once i started getting into arguments with people about a certain they were doing wrong(like how a dude was trying to apply to same company job at different times or different position, i was saying there is no way they would hire you once you get rejected, he was deadset on reapplying no reason other than how convenient it is for him) and i was getting warnings. i do it doesnt clutter up the subs, that would flag my account as a spammer originally.

      • brax@sh.itjust.works
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        20 days ago

        But then how can we ask for nudes? /S

        I don’t mind DMs for one-off things. Like if I see something sketchy and want to tip off a user without alerting the sketchy one.

        Also, everybody already owns a named subreddit that they mod, don’t they? So can’t you just send modmail there and still sidebar the chat in lieu of modmail DMs?

        • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
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          16 days ago

          there were subs getting in trouble for asking nudes, mainly medical, where perverts were asking CP-type pictures of thier privates of minors, i think the subs became aware and started making it known you cant post as a minor anymore, or have to label the post without pics.

      • SpoopyKing@lemmy.sdf.org
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        20 days ago

        It was useful for asking questions that neither you nor the other person would want to put in a public post. For example, someone posted a picture in the bad real estate sub that looked very familiar, and I sent a DM asking “is this X location?”. I might not want people to know I’m familiar with X location, they might not want people to know they’re familiar with X location, but maybe we’re both ok with each other knowing.

        But I’m pretty sure its main use was sending hate to people without getting banned.

      • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
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        20 days ago

        I used to use it when I wanted to impart a little secret to another Redditor, without alerting the entire world.

        For instance, I found a cool, lesser-used auction site that often had good deals on guitars. If I ran across someone whose guitar had been lost somehow, or who couldnt afford a new guitar, I would DM the auction site, and ask them to keep it quiet. I didn’t want to announce it publicly, and alert the entire world to it, and ruin it.

        • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
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          16 days ago

          i do that too, trying to give them advice , that people wouldnt try to astroturf your comment.

      • Sc00ter@lemm.ee
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        20 days ago

        I would use it for some video game LFGs. I wouldnt want to post my game name in a public forum and have my game account be flooded.

  • Nukul4r@feddit.org
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    19 days ago

    Not trying to defend Reddit here, but what’s the functional difference between a chat and DMs? How is one better or worse than the other?

    • SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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      19 days ago

      DMs are exactly what you expect, like private email. Every service has some form of this.

      Reddit chat is real time, designed for shorter messages and real-time communication.

      The other difference is that everybody uses Reddit DMs and nobody uses Reddit chat. I have my chat turned off as do most others that I talk to.

      So this is yet again another example of Reddit management not reading the room and forcing the use of a system people generally don’t want.

    • starman2112@sh.itjust.works
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      19 days ago

      For me, it’s that the app I use does not have the chat feature. I’m 99% certain this is just an attempt to push out the revanced users

      • viking@infosec.pub
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        19 days ago

        Chat is only available in the official client, the implementation is closed source. So yeah most likely that.

  • Psythik@lemm.ee
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    19 days ago

    I’ll just don’t understand how PM became DM for so many people. I mean it literally says “PM” in the screenshot, yet OP still changed it to “DM” in their post.

    I remember it used to always be PM, then one day everyone suddenly started calling it DM and I just don’t know why…

    • boonhet@lemm.ee
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      19 days ago

      My conspiracy theory is that big social platforms like Instagram and/or Snapchat are behind the change, because the P in PM is for Private and they are fundamentally against privacy, as they profit off your data, including likely analyzing your messages to serve you more relevant ads.

  • randomname01@feddit.nl
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    21 days ago

    Makes sense tbh, having two separate systems of private one-on-one communication wasn’t that logical.

    • brax@sh.itjust.works
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      21 days ago

      “makes sense” would be removing the chat that never should have existed in the first place.

      • randomname01@feddit.nl
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        20 days ago

        Yeah ok sure, but given that the chat existed this isn’t surprising. I’m not enamoured with Reddit’s choices (obviously, we’re on Lemmy), but the reaction here feels pretty dumb.

        • brax@sh.itjust.works
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          20 days ago

          Huh? They added the chat in like 2017 as part of their push to enshitify the site and make it a social network lol. I thought it was stupid then, and I still don’t see why we need it. Reddit is (was) designed to be like a forum. You post, and you wait for an answer. It wasn’t meant for real-time conversation. I don’t even see how that fits into the site? The majority of chats I get are NSFW spam bots, and the rest are messages that I see months later because I have chat hidden and only see it on really rare occasions when I have to leave old.reddit a DM would have been answered much faster lol

    • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
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      16 days ago

      im surprised they even kept it this long, considered even bots gave up on it.

    • gibmiser@lemmy.world
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      21 days ago

      It makes sense if you want to force users to use the app. It’s what put the nail in the coffin for facebook for me.

      • kratoz29@lemm.eeEnglish
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        20 days ago

        The patched 3rd party apps were the first that came to my mind… Gladly I barely use the DMs feature, even less the chat feature lol.

    • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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      20 days ago

      Delete your phone’s texting app.

      What? You can just call them. Having two separate systems of private one-on-one communication isn’t that logical.

  • dev_null@lemmy.ml
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    21 days ago

    How did they remove bad reviews, and on which platform? To my knowledge neither Google Play nor the App Store allows developers to do that, so it would have to be a more complicated situation with Google/Apple collaboration.

      • dev_null@lemmy.ml
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        21 days ago

        Yes, so either the reviews were all death threats, in which case I’m fine with them being removed, or Google/Apple is secretly collaborating with Reddit.

        • Voyajer@lemmy.world
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          20 days ago

          My guess is many could be removed under the guise of being off topic, addressing Reddit itself and not the app specifically.

    • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      20 days ago

      Sir/madam/???, this is a community called Reddit. This specifically is where people would care(though I agree with the sentiment).

      • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        20 days ago

        this keeps happening because the posts rise up. I’m not subscribed.

        but I do love watching it descend into trash. hard to say why I don’t block it but it shows up for non subscribers for sure.

        • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
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          16 days ago

          its been in trash since they try to force new reddit down peoples throats.

        • Ziglin (it/they)@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          19 days ago

          You can set whether you want to view all/subscribed/local in your Lemmy client.

          The communities I’m currently subscribed to don’t have that much content so I end up on all frequently. That’s how I keep seeing these posts too.

    • oh_@lemmy.world
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      21 days ago

      Reddit dude is involved in the new Digg sadly… Oh and they already are big talking AI for it.

      • bassomitron@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        21 days ago

        Alexis Ohanian, who co-founded Reddit, is not Steve Huffman (Spez/current Reddit CEO). He’s done some solid activism and charity work, unlike the piece of shit Spez. The fact it seems he’s trying to distance himself from Reddit by trying to revive their former rival is some rich irony.