• hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Finnish is actually 9*10+2

    Yhdeksänkymmentäkaksi

    Yhdeksän = nine

    Kymmentä = of ten

    Kaksi = two

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    Isn’t it mostly 9*10+2? 9 * ty (implying 10) + 2.

    Even german does that, although weirdly the way you can’t just write down long numbers reasily one by one: Zwei (2) und ((and) neun- (9) -zig (*10)).

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    I’m actually impressed by this map. The French speaking part of Switzerland is not only differentiated from the German speaking part, it is also differently coloured than France, since Swiss French has more sensible numbers.

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    Note to self: For learning a scandinavian language - learn Swedish instead of Danish.

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    We can also do 2+90 here in the UK. There’s a nursery rhyme about “four and twenty blackbirds” that I think the kids are still learning.

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    That meme is so lame. 92 in Danish is two and a half fives. The 20 part is old-fashioned and literally nobody has used that since the 1800s.

    2 and a half fives’ twentieth = outdated cringe. 2 and a half fives = actually how it is said today.

    It’s still a friggin nightmare to get someone’s Phone number verbally, though.

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        More like 2 and half fives. Half five is our word for 90. So in essence we say 2 and 90 but the word 90 is half five.

        80 is fours

        70 is half fours

        60 is threes

        50 is half threes

        40 is forty

        30 is thirty

        20 is twenty

        10 is ten.

        Oh and a 100 is a hundred. So I dunno what happened between 50 and 90, but I’m sure there is a funny story behind that somewhere.

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            I never claimed otherwise. I’m just tired that this 92 meme is using outdated language (or numbers rather) to make a point that may have been reasonable to make in the 1800s, but not today. Doesn’t mean our number system is any less retarded today. If anything, I’m just adding on to the fact that Danes are notoriously lazy with the Danish language and will cut corners with all words and sentences the same way Americans cut corners when they chop everybody’s name up into bite sized nicknames. For us, though, it’s more like slurring at the end of a word and flat out ignoring letters that are very clearly there in the word.

            Woe is the poor asshole who decides to immigrate here and attempts to learn the cancerous gargle that is our language.

            That said, it is still the best language to curse in and when used in poetry, it can be downright majestic.

            But yeah, our curses are superior to all words in the English language.

            My favourite for life will always be kræftedme = cancer eat me - usually uttered in a sentence to underline how pissed off you are and how serious you are about being pissed off.

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      Dane here. No one actively thinks of 90 (halvfems, 2 and a half fives) as a mathematical expression. Is is just a word for 90. So we say 2+90 like Germany.

      Would it have been nice if that word meant “9 tens”, yes, but Danish is a just a stupid language where you have to learn a bunch of things by heart unfortunately.

      • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world
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        How would you say trump is like Hitler? Do you have to describe the Holocaust in few words within a long ass German style word?

        • bstix@feddit.dk
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          Easy. We often use idioms for comparisons.

          One old way would be: “Trump and Hitler are both 2/3 yards from one piece” which means “They’re cut from the same (bad) fabric”.

          Fabric was cut in an old measurement"alen" which was 2 foot or 2/3 yards, so simply stating the length would be understood as fabric, similar to how everyone knows that a 2x4s is a piece of wood and such.

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        No, in Danish the “half five” part means the same as “half past 4” on the clock: 4.5.

        Then the part that most people omit nowadays, sindstyvende, means times 20.

        (Half past 4) times 20 = 90.

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          When you have to write down numbers, but the person reading you the numbers speaks slowly 💀

          Them: “Two…”

          Me: “2”

          Them: “… and fifty”

          Me: “… 2 - 52”

          Them: “Six…”

          Me: “6”

          Them: “… and twenty.”

          Me: “6 - 26”

          🫠

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    The map is wrong, Czechs can do both 2+90 and 90+2, I am not sure if it’s regional within the country, or depends on the context, but they definitely use both versions

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      I think the first picture jumps over a little bit of calculation:

      9 x 10 + 2

      2 + 9 x 10

      p.s. The third one makes total sense!

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      Ehh, i’m not giving France a pass either.

      The answer to 100 - 8 should not be four twenties and a twelve. We’re counting, not making change.

      French counting is bunk. Way, Way, better then Denmark though apparently

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        the thing nobody mentions is that the 4x20 part became a word that just means 80 in people’s mind, it kinda not literal anymore, but the Swiss and Belgian ways are still better (edit the 4x20+10 is similarly just 90)

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          e a word that just means 80 in people’s mind, it kinda not literal anymore, but the Swiss and Belgian ways are still better (edit the 4x20+10 is s

          And if it was 28 syllables, it would still be 80 in people’s minds. But the words are still four twenty eight for what could easily just be nine eight.

          I get it, but it is really inefficient for something as oft used as counting.

          If it makes you feel better, English is full of crap like that which doesn’t make any sense and I’ll own that as a trash language :)

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          Most Danes does not know how 92 is constructed - it is just as picture one, second calculation: 2 and halvfems = 92.

          However, I do feel like we’re using Imperial unites.

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    Ugh okay here’s another “Danes shouldn’t be allowed to make number stuff”:

    The time 15:25 is “five minutes before half 4”

    “Fem minutter i halv fire”

    So you round up to 16 before even halfway, what!?

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      I’m very Danish and refuse to adhere to this nonsense. It’s pronounced “three twenty-five”.

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      That makes perfect sense to me though. In Swedish we’d say fem i halv fyra. Five minutes to half four.

      But in English half four would be short for half past four. I guess.

      Counting like the Danish, however, that is an abomination.

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        What’s wrong with “25 over 3?” I see the need for half 4 by itself but things being relative to that is so weird to me

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          Well, it’s interesting because that would be the case with 15:20. That’d be tjugo över tre (twenty past three). But specifically 15:25 would be fem i halv fyra (five to half four). 15:35 is fem över halv fyra (five past half four).

          And then 15:40 is tjugo i fyra (twenty to four).

          So :25 and :35 are weird edge cases.