Erik Jonker (@ErikJonker@mastodon.social)
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Interesting: Docs is the result of a joint effort lead by the French 🇫🇷🥖(DINUM) and German 🇩🇪🥨 governments (ZenDiS). We are always looking for new public partners (we are currently onboarding the Netherlands 🇳🇱🧀). Feel free to reach out if you are interested in using or contributing to docs. https://docs.numerique.gouv.fr/login/ #docs #opensource #eu #europe #france #germany #netherlands #collaboration #fosdem
  • utopiah@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 hour ago

    Nice, DINUM is doing a lot so great to see go beyond with supra national collaboration!

    I’m using NextCloud (Germany and international open source community) hosted on Webo (Slovenia) with data centers in Germany and Helsinki (so I bet on Hetzner). I’m happy with it but I’ll keep on eye on https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs

    • utopiah@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 hour ago

      I’d be curious, they use Minio which puts S3 first. Does it mean Docs (the official instance) is relying on AWS?

      If so IMHO that’s not a great default EU sovereignty.

      • hoppolito@mander.xyzEnglish
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        56 minutes ago

        I would assume (without having looked at the codebase) that if they use minio they are, by default, not reliant on AWS.

        Minio is its own S3 implementation which can be self-hosted.

        S3, being an AWS protocol originally has AWS environment variables all over the place but that does not necessarily mean a reliance on the service. Rather, they rely on the protocol and you bring your own S3 endpoint I would assume. be that minio, hetzner or what have you.

        • cmhe@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          48 minutes ago

          I thought that MinIO is a Open-Source S3 implementation, which you can just install on your own system. S3 is a “protocol” here IIUC.

          Is your complaint that they are using the S3 protocol, because it was invented and is controlled by AWS?

          Or that some services might use it without MinIO, directly on AWS?

  • AnonomousWolf@lemm.eeEnglish
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    2 hours ago

    We already have kDrive you get 1TB storage for only 2€ a month, it’s based in Switzerland

  • stoly@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    10 hours ago

    Really cool. I tried to sign up but you have to be part of an officially recognized organization in France and input their registration number as part of the process.

    • meliaesc@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      10 hours ago

      I definitely don’t want the government attached to my personal files, in any country.

  • jaxxed@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    14 hours ago

    If I can copy and paste with thought having to install the offline plugin, then I’m in.

  • genomebandit@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    16 hours ago

    Really glad to see the EU adopt more open source software as a way to combat the centralized control some of the american software companies have over the space.

  • شاهد على إبادة@lemm.eeEnglish
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    16 hours ago

    Calligra and LibreOffice already exist though. I am not against this in principle but couldn’t they have invested in an existing FOSS project?

    • CostcoFanboy@lemmy.caEnglish
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      10 hours ago

      A lot of government programs don’t really make sense and are there just to put a name on a CV sadly. Collabora Online does exactly that and is primary licensed under Mozilla Public License.

      They could have easily expanded Collabora. But you know, can’t stamp your name on it.

      • milicent_bystandr@lemm.eeEnglish
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        55 minutes ago

        To be fair, though a new project might not be as efficient as improving another, projects learn off each other, and sometimes it’s good to have developmental ‘competition’, and variety.

    • Trihilis@ani.socialEnglish
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      15 hours ago

      While both of those are great software. Unless I’m not aware of something they aren’t cloud/network based office suites like Google docs and office 365.

      It seems this is an alternative to office software where you can work simultaneously and share documents in the same cloud/network.

      I don’t think there is an alternative to office 365 and Google docs at this point that is open source. So this seems like a great project and I’ll definitely be considering it for our company.

    • xthexder@l.sw0.comEnglish
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      15 hours ago

      Can either of those do collaborative editing? I usually think of that feature when I think of Google Docs

  • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    16 hours ago

    It looks closer to the markdown style of formatting though, and I doubt it has page formatting, or other more advanced formatting, or extensions, or a large selection of fonts. Honestly, even though docs has pageless formatting now, most people don’t use it when they should, making everything unnecessary harder to read, so this will be better in that regard at least. This is probably good enough for 95% of what people use Docs for, but I wouldn’t call it a replacement.

    I haven’t used it because I don’t have a French government account, so correct me if I’m wrong about any of that.

        • Allero@lemmy.todayEnglish
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          14 hours ago

          Nice to see Lemmy is not just a place for complete nerds!

          FOSS is free and open-source software. In simple terms, it is any program for which the source code (i.e. the actual code that forms the program, its entire backbone) is available for anyone to see and modify as they see fit, without any technical or legal limitations.

          This is normally seen as very positive, because everyone with the knowledge of respective programming languages can inspect the program to see it doesn’t do anything malicious, and everyone can change the program to their needs. Also, the original creator of the program does not have power to put any limitations on its use, like introducing payment requirements, or deleting important features, because everyone can immediately spawn a version of the program that doesn’t have these changes, while still having the rest.

          • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
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            2 hours ago

            So… how do I use it? I tried signing up on the site, but… it said something about an organization it was poorly transltaed from French to English, so I couldn’t tell what I was doing… I got as far as registering my current email address

        • kerrigan778@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          14 hours ago

          I was going to make a joke but honestly it’s refreshing and a good sign that Lemmy is starting to get used by people who don’t know what FOSS means now. Welcome.

  • flop_leash_973@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    18 hours ago

    As someone in and from the US, good. Private companies are far to prevalent in public institutions all over the world. Something as basic and fundamental as word processing should not be controlled by a small select few huge international companies.