• Rozaŭtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    4 months ago

    It’s fine if you don’t want kids for yourself, but antinatalism as an ideology is only a few steps away from ecofascism.

    • spujb@lemmy.cafe
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      4 months ago

      correct. i would have no problem if this post and the subsequent comments defending it didn’t use the words “wrong” and “immoral.” but they do and that’s fascist territory.

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        4 months ago

        It is discussed with those words because it has been transformed into an ethical question. It is a personal freedom, but it can be asked how ethically correct or incorrect that action is aside from our current laws or [cultural/social] morality.

        It’s about wonder, ponder. I think that’s always important, even for things that seem taboo at first.

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      4 months ago

      I guess each person has a different approach to antinatalism. I don’t want to bring children into the world because unlike many people who outright lie, I do not think it will bring me joy. I’m also scared that if I bring a child into this world and it will suffer as much as I currently do, I won’t be able to live with the blame.

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        4 months ago

        Antinatalism isn’t just a personal decision to not have kids, it’s an ideological belief that having kids is morally wrong.

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          4 months ago

          This is an overgeneralisation which completely misses the nuance. Antinatalism does not postulate that it’s morally wrong to procreate, only that it is morally wrong to bring another human consciousness into a soup of suffering, which… yeah, kinda’! I mean, is the world not presently a soup of suffering, with extra helpings on the way?

          Personally, I doubt most people who subscribe to Antinatalism would do so if society weren’t literally a hell hole right now.