You know, DOGE, fascist president and corporations dictating what people can do, institutions being ruined, laws being ignored. Is there any way out of that or is it over? Is the USA done?
Have you read about US History? I recommend looking at presidents Andrew Jackson, Woodrow Wilson, and Richard Nixon.
What do you mean by “screwed”? I think the question needs to be more clearly defined before I can give an answer.
A lot of damage is going to be done. Things are going to get much worse before they get better. Some people are going to get killed.
But I don’t think this is the literal apocalypse. Life will continue. It’s going to be hard to rebuild and will take a long time, but we will rebuild as much as we can.
Honestly we were screwed long before now, but yes. Its going to be a slow decline into fascism until we collectively wise up. I do think there’s a real possibility of that happening, but its going to take a lot of work.
I wont give a knee jerk response to it. a country the size, economy, and history of USA doesn’t get done for by one President. While Muskrump will cause plenty of institutional damage and suffering on American and global populace, USA will come out stronger and better nation at the end of this (whenever this ends). Case in point, Germany before WWII and Germany after WWII
So long as there is people living in a place, having kids, and trying to improve their lives, the places will remain. The government may change, social structure’s get overhauled, but the same fact that people are having kids and building a life means those places are unlikely to go away. The old republic is dead. We have supreme court justices taking bribes then passing judgments saying they can. We have the position of President where anyone in it can legally say “I was doing it for my country the laws don’t apply.” And get away with it. The United States of America as a Democratic Republic, is over. But there still exists a United States of America that has transitioned to a Democratic Empire/kingdom. So to the question; “Is the USA screwed?” The simple answer is No. It will continue on so lobg as the population does. Is the Democratic Republic of the United States screwed? Bitch be dead, screw the corpse if you like.
Nah, but it’s going to be a long way back to 2015.
We’ve been set back to the 40s. Maybe by the next 40s
It’s fucking toast
I believe the US is a failed state. trump just decided that himself and his AG are the only people who can decide which laws apply to the executive, and ordered the termination of all remaining Biden era US Attorneys. I know we’ve been saying this a lot lately, but it feels like a mask off moment.
It depends on the will and strength of mind of the populace. The politicians are laughing all the way to their Swiss bank accounts.
It might take a long time to fix, but someday we will recover.
I think the US is over. There will be something else for sure, but i don’t know if the US is salvageable
I think you need some perspective. The situation is bad and seems like foreshadowing of worse things to come. However, we’re a pretty far distance from states pulling away or civil war breaking out.
There’s more to it than that. I’m talking about a dictatorship, where trump flaunts the law, more than he already has.
Um, not so much. California is going to have a vote on state independence on the next ballot. I can see Texas following suit.
And does anyone actually think those have a chance of passing right now?
There’s always been talk of succession here and there, but we just aren’t at the point of the US actually breaking up.
Curious why you think that? Blue states no longer have any representation. Their representatives are blocked from even entering federal buildings through the public access. Their votes don’t matter. Nobody’s votes count for anything in blue states, and are unlikely to even be counted accurately in the future.
The fed isn’t even recognizing court orders. Education and most services, protections are being disassembled across the government. Energy grids weakened as wind and hydropower is being cut off.
People’s rights are being stripped away. Their tax money is being used against allies. Trade wars. Prices are going up. I can’t think of a reason for them to remain paying out more taxes than they receive into a hostile corrupt system they have no voice in, besides the military holding them hostage.
Yeah we aren’t anywhere close to the point of states breaking out of the union. Some people will call for it, maybe even a lot. But as soon as they realize what is required that shit will stop immediately. California would quite literally need to go to war with the union to gain that independence regardless of what they voted. So not only would they need to actually vote for it but then they’d have to be willing to go to war and kill and die for that separation and their independence.
As strong as people feel, we aren’t even close to that point. Not to mention it would fail; none of the states currently have any hope of competing against the US military machine. Give us a couple hundred more years to really really deteriorate and siphon all value from the people and land and we may be there.
I mean I don’t think most people are for state independence now, but the idea is gaining legitimacy. There’s just no reason to stick with a federal government that will take your taxes and then give you nothing.
If these things Trump is removing with presidential orders was so important, why the fuck didn’t Congress make them laws while Democrats had a majority in the past twenty fucking years?
This shit is infuriating to me that we only blame one side for these issues.
Because the Democratic party is, and always has been, a willing collaborator.
They have their petty squabbles, but they’ve always been on the same side in regards to making sure the wealthy and powerful stay that way, at all costs.
why the fuck didn’t Congress make them laws
Why do you think that would make any difference? Are you not seeing the trump administration straight up ignoring laws that are in place blocking a lot of their current behavior?
Fair point. But then if laws are meaningless if you happened to be wealthy or in a position of power, why is everyone in the Democratic Party essentially shrugging and doing literally nothing about this?
I agree. Even if the democrats were doomed to fail because of how the Republicans operate. But the democrats didn’t even start the process.
At least be in record that a bill was put up and the Republicans voted it down. To not do anything was stupid. Maybe ya get lucky and get something passed.
Although there’s a lot of knee-jerk reaction in some circles, Trump issuing EOs that are illegal and unenforceable only go as far as all the other vitriol that slides it’s way out of his mouth creases. Plenty of things he does are blocked by judges, including his demand that only him and his AG are allowed to interpret the law. It just doesn’t work like that. Although the possibility of things being escalated and allowed through a compromised supreme Court still exists, it hasn’t happened yet. I’m not giving into the mania while checks and balances still actually do exist.
Corporations dictating what people can do has been happening basically my whole life.
DOGE is another story. It’s very bad, yeah, but I’m not sure how it affects me personally in my day-to-day.
We got all this dooming 8 years ago as well. We were fine then, we will be fine now.
They literally attempted a coup when they lost the election, so no, everything was not “fine”.
False.
The people that define these things disagree with you: https://clinecenter.illinois.edu/coup-detat-project/statement_dec.15.2022
That’s not webster’s dictionary. Here, let me link it. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/coup And if you’re feeling lazy, here’s the definition: 1 : a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics and especially the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group : coup d’état
Since Trump didn’t attempt to overthrow anything, and he certainly didn’t use force, he didn’t attempt a coup.
Glad we got that all cleared
Haha yeah. Websters dictionary is the sole arbiter of political upheaval and is the singular source of authority on all events, past and present.
Its not like there is an organization that catalogs and studies such events or anything. That would be ridiculous! Oh wait
The precious norms!
Haha stupid libs and their “peaceful transfer of power”. I want to rule the disgusting poor’s with an iron fist! THEY WILL KNOW MY SUPREMITY AMD MY REIGN OF
TERRORCOMPASSION WILL KNOW NO END!least incoherent shitlib
Upvoted for the optimism. Let’s hope you’re right.
They didn’t have a Project 2017 then. The situation is very different.
From the outside looking in, I have to say that the pace of things this time around is pretty alarming.
They absolutely did have all those goals then
We were not fine then and neither are we now
No. In fact it’s opposite. Doge is a good thing. Trump is not an actual fascist despite claims to the contrary, wasteful institutions are being curtailed, laws are being enforced.
The only real issue is that journalists are a bunch of rage baiting hacks, and y’all eat up it like it’s Thanksgiving dinner.
The only thing I’m actually worried about is when the Democrats take back power, if they’ll turn into tyrants. But I don’t think that’s particularly likely either.
Trump is a textbook fascist.
- Racist
- Nationalist
- Populist
- Authoritarian
What more do you need?
lol…
So many words to say you’re dumb
It’s Kaboom. It really only takes two words and a symbol to figure that out: “Kaboom”, an “@”, and the “Reddthat” instance.
That’s mean to the red that admins, they’re nice people!
Probably.
We been screwed for decades; all the minor plot threads, foreshadowing, and chekhov’s implements are all just coalescing at the same time for one last grand finale.
