I mean, it’s not very cool if the good people living here have to suffer for it. Wishing for collapse isn’t progressive or leftist - it’s just defeatist.
And op is saying some shit about just giving governing to natives, but those would be the first people to suffer hard in a collapse. They just want people to hurt.
Wishing for the collapse of the current system is very leftist. In fact, you objectively can’t be considered leftist if you support anything about the imperialist, colonialist, capitalist US system. There are zero redeeming features about our nation. It should die.
Just to be clear if you had a magic button that would result in guaranteed gradual reform if you pressed it. And not pressing it would result in collapse.
We are a “first past the post” electoral system. That alone should disillusion you of hope for any change through voting.
Biden is “the most progressive president we’ve ever had.” This is probably sadly true, which again shows that anyone who cares about marginalized groups should hope for the collapse of such an outrageously atrocious system.
Collapse is best. We should work towards collapse.
Yeah we’re a nation of shit people overall. All the more reason collapse is best overall. I’m willing to suffer and die if it means Palestinians and immigrants can be spared
Let’s give the land back to the Native Americans then! Surely they can’t do worse than our inherently corrupt, atrocious system, right?
Certainly if we are “first past the post” and our biggest hope for change and “most progressive” president is a bigoted genocidaire, we’re better with them in charge, agreed?
Wishing for the collapse of the current system is very leftist
And see the imperialist, colonialist, capitalist China and Russia rise to wreck the world as they see fit just like how USA do? How very leftist of you.
No different, Just like hiding behind leftist agenda while pushing your anti-us one is no different than the right-wing trying to hide their fascism while pretend to do it for the people. Also you get someone who’s not even trying to hide their intention if US collapse.
Hi friend, you seem to be* confused. Blahaj has downvotes disabled, so the count is almost always going to be zero. The only downvotes you may potentially see come from your own server.
I know in this case you might be upset that this person has 0 downvotes, but the reason Blahaj has them disabled is because bigots often use them to shutdown, and try and hide, trans people’s comments and posts. Even when they are not saying anything controversial.
I mean, it’s not very cool if the good people living here have to suffer for it. Wishing for collapse isn’t progressive or leftist - it’s just defeatist.
And op is saying some shit about just giving governing to natives, but those would be the first people to suffer hard in a collapse. They just want people to hurt.
Wishing for the collapse of the current system is very leftist. In fact, you objectively can’t be considered leftist if you support anything about the imperialist, colonialist, capitalist US system. There are zero redeeming features about our nation. It should die.
I’d prefer gradual reform over collapse. Less shocking to our culture/economy that way I think.
Yeah well gradual reform is right-wing liberal propaganda that makes marginalized groups suffer even more for our own privilege. It doesn’t work.
Just to be clear if you had a magic button that would result in guaranteed gradual reform if you pressed it. And not pressing it would result in collapse.
You would press the button, right?
I would kill the person who was forcing me to push such an absurd button. I’d celebrate the death of any nation that supported the button’s existence
How do you feel about democracies? Like say it post collapse and revolution. You ended up on top. Would you create a democracy?
This may come as an absolute shock, but this is a post gleefully celebrating the idea of the downfall of a genocidal regime
If you want to discuss anarchist theory, there are much better forums for that than 196. Too many libs here.
So you don’t feel safe answering my question. I won’t force an answer.
Liberals themselves have told me:
We are a “first past the post” electoral system. That alone should disillusion you of hope for any change through voting.
Biden is “the most progressive president we’ve ever had.” This is probably sadly true, which again shows that anyone who cares about marginalized groups should hope for the collapse of such an outrageously atrocious system.
Collapse is best. We should work towards collapse.
Edit: Autocorrect sucks donkey ass
i don’t think the left wing is best positioned to take power if there was a collapse
i think a collapse would bring the us significantly more right wing
Yeah we’re a nation of shit people overall. All the more reason collapse is best overall. I’m willing to suffer and die if it means Palestinians and immigrants can be spared
but if the right wing took power of america’s arsenal i think more Palestinians and immigrants would die
Let’s give the land back to the Native Americans then! Surely they can’t do worse than our inherently corrupt, atrocious system, right?
Certainly if we are “first past the post” and our biggest hope for change and “most progressive” president is a bigoted genocidaire, we’re better with them in charge, agreed?
And see the imperialist, colonialist, capitalist China and Russia rise to wreck the world as they see fit just like how USA do? How very leftist of you.
How is it different when the USA does it?
A true anti-fascist opposes the acts, not the nation.
Nationalism is fascism.
No different, Just like hiding behind leftist agenda while pushing your anti-us one is no different than the right-wing trying to hide their fascism while pretend to do it for the people. Also you get someone who’s not even trying to hide their intention if US collapse.
“Wishing for the collapse of the current system is very leftist.” - 16 upvotes, 0 downvotes.
And y’all wonder why people don’t take the left seriously.
Hi friend, you seem to be* confused. Blahaj has downvotes disabled, so the count is almost always going to be zero. The only downvotes you may potentially see come from your own server.
I know in this case you might be upset that this person has 0 downvotes, but the reason Blahaj has them disabled is because bigots often use them to shutdown, and try and hide, trans people’s comments and posts. Even when they are not saying anything controversial.