Please go to Apple Maps and harass them mecilessly
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Truth is, these big companies don’t care about you. Or your opinion. You can threaten them about “switching to Linux”, but these companies will think twice and say:
- if we take this complaint seriously, we might retain one (1) customer, which makes us $1000 in the future
- if we follow Trump, we might get some favorable legislation, which makes us $10000000
how, do you think, will apple react?
The correct framework for evaluation is “if we kowtow and associate with nazis we might get our people luigi’d randomly”
That’s odd; my Apple Maps says “Gulf of Mexico” and searching for “Gulf of America” shows 0 results.
Unlike Google Maps/Earth….
You have to access it from a US IP address to get the new name.
From a UK or German IP address, Google maps has it as Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America).
We’re being dragged into this mess so will look to report it
Just wait, they said they would enable it globally soon enough.
I don’t really know how to feel about this.
Was it decreed by an absolute narcissist for no reason other than the kind of blatant arrogance Americans are notorious for? Absolutely.
Was it also completely legal? As far as I can tell. It’s not really these companies’ place to resist map name changes, it’s the citizens’ and our representatives’.
Does it have anything at all to do with fascism? No.
Was it decreed by an absolute narcissist for no reason other than the kind of blatant arrogance Americans are notorious for? Absolutely.
Most of the things Traitorapist Trump does is a desperate plea for your attention. Remember that 1 day immigration “crackdown”? He just wanted your unneccessary attention for that one particular day. If finding illegals was that easy they would have already been caught by Biden. He will do another one, but it will be on a random day that Trump is worried you aren’t paying him enough attention. There is no master plan on immigration, just a bunch of 1 day stunts. You can also safely ignore everything Trump says about annexing Canada, Greenland, and Gaza.
Ignore all Trump’s meaningless nonsense and 1 day stunts. Instead of doing that, pay attention to his 2 big related things which are his (1) Enshitification Push and his (2) Fascism Push. Fascism involves Enshitification, but his Enshitification Push goes beyond Fascism and includes things like trying to normalize corruption, promote incompetence, and hugely degrade the quality of government. Somebody needs to track every single one of the specific details of those things. But here is what we do NOT need to do: don’t fall into Trump’s narcissism web and think that just because Trump says some stupid thing every day you need to pay attention to him every day. On most days you do not.
All he can dictate is what official American maps call it. But he can’t make everyone else rename it, Apple and Google did not need to rename it they could have ignored him who has no legal power to do anything to them but they are kissing his bronzed arse so of course they did.
Apple and Google did not need to rename it
Who has the authority to dictate what things should be called on a map if not the government? Tech companies are supposed to make these decisions?
No that’s the point it would not be in defiance of the government because the government don’t have the authority to tell private companies or individuals what bits of water should be called. All president has the authority to do is dictate what federal agencies call it.
The whole reason that everyone thinks this is a massive waste of time is precisely because he doesn’t actually have the authority to force anybody to do anything. 20 years from now I highly doubt anyone is still going to be calling it the Gulf Of America, it’s just a PR stunt to keep his supporters happy.
No that’s the point it would not be in defiance of the government because the government don’t have the authority to tell private companies or individuals what bits of water should be called.
They don’t need the authority. If the government says “this is x” and you say “no, this is y” that’s defiance.
At the same time it’s the map’s job to describe the world. Even for something like nation states where there’s an official name, the map uses the common name. Our maps say France, not French Republic.
Changing the displayed name for a body of water shared by several nations doesn’t make much sense, especially when the common name has yet to follow.
At least that’s from the perspective of one of the goals the map ostensibly wants to serve.
fascism is when i don’t like something, right?
isn’t it best when we water down terms to meaninglessness? /s
I can’t be the only one who feels like this is the absolute lowest priority of dumb shit to resist the regime over. It’s just filler. Another thing he is doing to flood the zone. But one that really doesn’t hurt anything. It’s a distraction. Ignore it and focus on the actual damage he is doing.
Yah, it feels like someone tossing a ball behind a dog. “Look over there! Go get it!”
The administration seems weak to business interest and with Apple having over a trillion dollar market value…customers being mad at them could actually somehow trickle back to Trump admin? It’s a drop in the ocean, I know. Just trying to look at it optimistically
Yeah, I mean it’s just books those nazis are burning, it doesn’t hurt anything, no need to discuss it. /s
US fascists are fucking rewriting the world and eradicating historical name, I consider it actual damage.
Actual book burning is the scientific data and articles being purged and saved (for now) by the Internet archive
To be fair, the entire history of humanity is full of exactly that. These are mostly just aimed at and recognized by the US. Same as Russia currently renaming occupied villages. Nobody else recognizes those, it’s just not that special or important at this point, with all of the other shit going on.
Ultimately, the names of places change. All the time. And will continue to change. It’s just what we do as humans. Somebody uses force and swings their dick around and locally others have to either accept it, silently or whining, or punch the fucker. Elsewhere people fight similar fights and care very little about the other dickswingers far away.
But google shows this imaginary trump name around the globe, not just in America. That is different to how google handles the fantasy names for lands China and Russia claim they are theirs…
the entire history of humanity is full of exactly that
The world today has nothing to do with the world 200 years ago. GAFAM are controlling the way information is shared and it’s very, they are more powerful then anything humanity has ever seen. It’s Big Brother from 1984.
But unlike americans, I don’t consider that we should just don’t care and stop whining. I’ll keep fighting fascism any way I can.
It’s a distraction. Ignore it and focus on the actual damage he is doing.
They actually put enough energy into this distraction to justify some level of response.
I get what you’re saying but, as someone observing from outside, stuff like this is all I can do to resist.
As someone from the outside, you wouldn’t even see the US specific naming. If complaining in a bug report about the fact and threatening to abandon the platform in favour of Linux is all you can do, man, don’t bother xD.
I’m open to suggestions for what else I can do. I’m already not buying anything made in the US.
lol, the iOS app won’t let me submit a ‘name is wrong’ report.
It won’t let you send until you actually change the name lol
Ah that was not immediately apparent lol I’m silly
I’m going to start calling it the United States of America of Mexico and sometimes Canada.
I use Naziland
I’m going to start using that one thank you.
United States of Amerixco
Mexico Jr.
The full name of Mexico is “Mexican United States”. Not joking.
You should abandon Apple for Linux anyways. Apple doesn’t care about you, your privacy, or anything but them making more money, from you. This has been proven time and time again by evidence and whistleblowers.
Eh, out of all my own traffic I’ve MITM’d it’s mostly been third-party SDKs in apps doing creepy shit.
Down to hate on Gulf of America but when it comes to privacy it’s debatable.
Its only for US users, no worry ;) hehe
Not for long. I’m literally on the other side of world.
Yes that is what I’m seeing. So it still says gulf of Mexico. Which is fine right?
It says my report is “in review” and I’ll be notified when they review it.
I wonder how that will go, and how fast.
I assume they have mechanisms to just push mass reports into a black hole. Or similar.
Don’t worry. They can send the reports to /dev/null where they will be read by Tim Apple himself when he checks it.
I just sent one in to Google Maps. Clearly it must be a bug. No such place exists
Shout out to the menial workers at Apple Maps who are going to have a crap day at work tomorrow because of the thing their boss made them do, so they don’t get fired and replaced by someone else who would do it.
That’s why they made Apple intelligence so minded numbingly stupid. Job security. If it were capable Apple management would have replaced everyone.
Do it. Move to Linux.
Also, reporting that Trump Tower (either) should be renamed Mexico Tower feels pretty good.
Wrote App Store review, then deleted maps. Installed Organic Maps to replace.
is there an easy way to export all my map markers from google to organic? I’ve saved a lot of locations over the years.
hmm I wondered this too. I have a ton of starred places as well as some custom lists. I wasn’t able to find anything to do it, but would also be interested in this.
This is the way.
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I’ve been struggling without public transportation in Organic. It kinda works? Like it shows the path but doesn’t actually show the stops or station names
Unfortunately, the reality is that OSM (what Organic Maps gets its data from) is volunteer-run, and most likely nobody’s gotten to the bus stops near you yet. The GOOD news is that OSM is easily editable with something like Street Complete on Android, Open Stop on either iOS or Android, or from the comfort of your home on https://www.openstreetmap.org/ . There’s other apps too, like EveryDoor and GoMap!! for iOS and Mac. If there’s something missing, please feel free to add it, and get in touch with others in your area to help contribute! I’ve done my own share of updating outdated places, adding new locations, and annotating stuff like street lighting, street surfaces, and so on.
Honestly - this is from a playbook used by every autocratic administration: “Take the attention away from the more important things”. Seen it in EU constantly: Hungary, Slovakia, Serbia, etc. So sure, report it, but be aware this is a charade.
Didn’t get your reference to Hungary etc. Do you mean they are annoying but don’t really matter in the overall scheme, or that similar tactics are used there?
Its about tactics - countries with autocratic leaders usually employ similar tactics where they e.g.
- make a big change to some segment of law (more/less important - but has to be something that hits everyone or doesn’t make sense), so the media reports on that, then make changes to it again (due to public pressure), so that media and population gets these topics in waves, just so they make everyone blind to their corruption games they play in the background,
- or they use some politician from their party/coalition to stir the pot in their ministry they lead by playing drama queens by accusing the opposition of corruption,
- or they leave a “less important” political role to a crazy person, they do stupid shit that takes years to fix and you essentially have constant drama and info taking away everyones attention from the important stuff.
- etc etc
But you get the point - calling it Gulf of America essentially gives you free patriotic bonus points from your followers and also makes your opposition / people invest in something that is, in the end, total waste of time (time which could be used for something else, like educating these populist/autocratic/however you call it tactics to everyone, so that your average Joe doesn’t get fooled by it so easily).
yup. at this point the bullshit coming out of trump’s mouth is the least concerning thing in this admin. the heavy lifting is done by the heritage foundation and doge
It is the main thing Trump is good at:
Creating some drama/infuriation to keep news noisy in order to hide his fascist dictator playbook moves
