• XIIIesq@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    If sex doesn’t matter in curling or chess, then why are there different competitions for men and women in curling and why do women get their own titles in chess?

    I do understand the sentiment of what you’re saying, but it’s not the reality we live in.

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      The “people who control sports organizations” only made separate leagues for women because some mens’ feelings get hurt when they lose to women.

      There’s no other point to segregating sports by gender, just straight white cis dudes getting bent out of shape by any challenge to their supposed superiority.

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          Ultra-endurance sports such as marathons (women show a statistical advantage over men above the 150-mile mark), Figure Skating (Madge Syers beat two men for the silver medal in 1902, women were then banned from competing until the sport was gender-segregated in 1906), Baseball (Jackie Mitchell struck out Babe Ruth and Lou Gherig in 1931 and was kicked out of the league a month later), Shooting sports (Zhang Shang took the gold in shotgun skeet in 1992, women were’t allowed to compete again until the sport was gender-segregated in 2000, and women average higher scores in the rifle category to this day), etc etc.

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            Shootings an interesting one. Most people familiar with guns notice women take to shooting accurately more easily and quickly than guys (with rifles, not handguns). I’ve seen this lots personally. My theory involves lower heart rate and lower muscle mass being conducive.

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              I dont know what they’re on about with Mitchell.

              (Jackie Mitchell struck out Babe Ruth and Lou Gherig in 1931 and was kicked out of the league a month later)

              This lacks SO much context, it was an EXHIBITION match and she never played in the MLB, she played in the minors. Anyone reading that would assume she struck out two greats in a real game and was banned by the MLB.

              There’s a lot of truth to she shooting thing, that should absolutely be co-ed.

              However, my point still stands: women and men should be separated if the sport has a physical component to its competition. (i.e. any sort of contact.)

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        I think you mean sports without a physical activity aspect; and even then, sports like chess don’t separate males and females (they offer female-only competitions).

        There’s no other point to segregating sports by gender, just straight white cis dudes getting bent out of shape by any challenge to their supposed superiority.

        What are you on about? There are two HUGE reasons: safety and fairness:

        1. Especially in contact sports, allowing women to play with men is not safe, and would only lead to an environment conducive to women getting injured.

        2. There would be zero professional female athletes (excluding sports that only require mental strategy ofc) if there were no separate leagues for women. They wouldn’t perform at even close to the same level as the men, AND would be at increased risk of injury.

        I don’t know what fantasy world you live in, but here are biological factors that make it necessary to separate men and women in order to have fair competition. Female athletes would be infinitely worse off if forced to try to compete in a single league shared with men, because they aren’t be able to.

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          I think you mean sports without a physical activity aspect

          No, I do not.

          Mens egos are so fragile that women were banned from minor league baseball when Jackie Mitchell struck out Babe Ruth and Lou Gherig in 1931.

          Figure skating was segregated in 1903 for the same reason, Madge Syers took the silver medal from a man.

          The history of womens’ sports is rife with examples like this, most sports started out as co-ed and only stayed that way until women started winning.

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            Figure skating is a perfect example of a performance sport, there isnt any physicality. Also, I think its absolutely ridiculous to claim that Jackie Mitchell striking out an aging Ruth and Gherig in an exhibition match is a woman ‘starting to win’.