Hello everyone,
@spaduf@slrpnk.net created !growthefediverse@slrpnk.net to synchronize efforts to promote the Fediverse on existing social media (e.g. that Reddit thread on /r/Technology which got a few people joining Lemmy)
Spaduf wasn’t aware of the existence of !fedigrow@lemm.ee , which is an existing community focused on the internal growt on the Fediverse, mostly between mods and regular posters trying to make Lemmy/Mbin/Piefed communitied grow.
To avoid confusion between the two communities, we are thinking about a potential new community to replace !growthefediverse@slrpnk.net, but with a different name.
Potential options we came up with:
What do you all think? Do you have any other ideas for the name of that new community?
Edit to clarify as it seems it wasn’t as obvious in the post: the objective is to keep !fedigrow@lemm.ee with its current focus: growth of communities already here (so more internal), while the new community would be about advocacy and promotion of the Fediverse on other places (so more external).
Having two communities seems better as people busy with keeping their communities active aren’t automatically interested in promoting the Fediverse externally, and vice versa.
Honest question: what is the goal here? As a user, I don’t care much about the fediverse as a concept. As a Reddit refugee, I love Lemmy and that is worth promoting as far as I am concerned. I was never into twitter, and mastodon doesn’t appeal to me. But if people want to promote it, go for it. As a techie, the fediverse is an interesting concept, but not one you’re going to get the general public interested in.
FYI: there is already a Fediverse Marketing Community as part of https://fediforum.org/projects/. How about joining forces with the people who are already there instead of duplicating effort?
I wasn’t aware, thanks!
Link to the discussion thread: https://community.nodebb.org/topic/17908/threadiverse-working-group
In general, I think communities shouldn’t splinter until there’s a need. IMO both efforts should just use !fedigrow@lemm.ee, and title posts in a way that makes the distinction clear. They’re both about growing the Fediverse in the end. If and when it becomes too much to keep in the same comm, then you’d split it up. That’s just my opinion as an internet rando though 🤷
Having two communities seems better as people busy with keeping their communities active aren’t automatically interested in promoting the Fediverse externally, and vice versa.
Same reason there is !fedimemes@feddit.uk separated from !fediverse@lemmy.world , the intent and type of content are different
Spreadiverse
Ew
It’s quite a lot worse than “fediverse,” and “fediverse” was already pretty bad.
I like it, but also sounds like federation porn.
I mean, of the hundreds of communities I’ve blocked so far, I feel like a solid half of them were furry porn, so honestly that tracks.
fedipromote
fediversepromotion if you feel the need for a lot more letters, but y tho? 😉
What they are doing is essentially promotion. So that, or something along the line is more appropriate.
Why not literally just here? Growth news are already posted here and the people subbed to this will care about the concept. It’s by far the biggest of the lot too.
It’s less about news and more about advocacy.
Yes but both in one community makes sense since people who advocate will care about the news and people who care about the news care enough to maybe advocate.
Does Lemmy have the equivalent of Reddit flair? That made some posts easier to avoid or focus on that others.
Tags are coming soon, which I think would be equivalent:
I think fediverse_migration or fediverse_procelytization is best :) I personally don’t like “fedi”
Thank you for your feedback!
Fedifriends
Obligatory https://xkcd.com/927/
I wouldn’t call it anything with just “support” in the name, or I’d imagine you’re going to get a lot of tech support questions regarding Fediverse software.
And keep in mind the attention span on the internet is reading half of the title of something. So the topic of conversation has to be very clear from the name alone.
Or maybe you want to join efforts? It’s still not clear to me whether both are about the same thing, just on different instances. I think both fedigrow and growthefediverse are good names that make it clear what it’s about. What about fedipromotion? or promotethefediverse? But I don’t think my ideas are as good…
I wouldn’t do fediverse support because it sounds too much like lemmy_support
One strategy that I’d like to specifically promote is fediverse users calling attention to spaces of the internet where people are talking about the fediverse but there’s relatively few users there that can share their experience.
To that end I’ve been considering things like:
- Fedimigration Reinforcements
- Fedimigration Support Team
Keep in mind that whatever name we pick will also be the hashtag that the Mastodon contingent of this project will end up using. As it stands, they would see posts from this community under #growthefediverse
Why confusion? It’s good there is more than one community! Can’t trust any instance to stay up
Edit: I’m was yapping and missing the point
The issue is that they have very similar names while being different. I edited the post to make it more clear.
I personally think lemmy users for the most part are technical enough to get that based on the descriptions you two may add. Those communities already have followers right?
I know asklemmy@lemmy.ml is not gonna censor me like asklemmy@lemmy.world is though they “have the same name.”
Those communities already have followers right?
!growthefediverse@slrpnk.net was created less than one week ago
Fedigrow@lemm.ee is the mis-named one. “To discuss how to grow and manage communities on Lemmy” is not really about evangelizing the whole fediverse to people outside. It could be more outward focused, but if you look at the posts in that community you’ll see it’s very much not what is being discussed.
I would say it’s a different type of growth. A topic that regularly comes up is consolidation of similar communities (the most recent example being !privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com as the suggested alternative to !privacyguides@lemmy.one !privacy@lemmy.world , !privacy@lemmy.ca , !privacy@fedia.io etc.)
So it’s a type of growth, but more internal than external.
Having two communities seems better as people busy with keeping their communities active aren’t automatically interested in promoting the Fediverse externally, and vice versa.
Perhaps, but it’s a bit too late to rename an existing and active community.
I think there is more of a need to make the fediverse feel like a community. Use my account on one service as a automatic validation to any other without requiring a formal sign up. Something like how “login with GitHub” etc. works. If these were interconnected in a low effort and seamless way, the existing community would be less of a walled garden and more of a culture. Posting video, pics, blogs, or even more forum like persistent topic threads should be seamless. In my opinion pursuing growth as a community has small returns. Becoming the most effective tool and the path of least resistance while being positive and stable is the real key to large scale growth. Updating LW is absolutely critical for Lemmy’s future IMO and is our weakest link.
These were the thoughts that came to mind after I saw fedigrow. That name was very intuitive.
I’ve been saying this the entire time I’ve been here.
You shouldn’t have a lemmy account, and a mastodon account, and a pixelfed account, and a peertube account, and a misskey account…you should have 1 account. A fediverse account. One account, you log into and any activity you have on your array of services would go to one account.
So if you post a picture on pixelfed, and a someone says “oh, thats a pretty butterfly!” And then you post a video on peertube about the ghostbusters, someone might reply “Oh, slimer is my favorite”. And BOTH replies go to the same notification area, and you canreply from the same page.
