• ShinkanTrain@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    1 month ago

    It will be really funny a couple of years from now when the dementia gets really obvious and everyone keeps pretending the emperor has clothes on and isn’t rubbing shit on the German PM’s face.

    Then the worst people on the planet will talk about what an alpha chad move that was.

  • Darkard@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 month ago

    Remember how every accusation was a confession.

    Remember how they wouldn’t shut the fuck up about voter fraud, illegals voting, machine tampering.

    Notice that suddenly all those problems went away.

  • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    1 month ago

    “Start free trial now”

    As opposed to the costly and constrained trials ending with “fuck it, he gets off scot-free because we dragged our feet on purpose and he’s above the law again”

  • casmael@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    Thanks to everyone who called me a lunatic for suggesting this might have been rigged through ballot stuffing

    • limer@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      1 month ago

      Americans, especially liberals, have a phobia of calling out mass cheating by authority figures.

      It’s like they need law and order so much, they are willing to ignore what is obvious. When a subject is taboo it’s not talked about , not dismissed, not encouraged

      If exit polls don’t work in your state, and there is no physical ballot counting. And when tests on precinct numbers show strong suggestion of altering votes and the democrats always always underperform, it’s obviously a new phenomena, totally ok. Let’s just stop predicting elections early based on exit polls!

      One such test post election for any state:

      Arrange all precincts in the state by population and see if there a curve on the more people there are there, the more percentage of votes a particular candidate gets: if it’s only that candidate and it’s a smooth curve upwards that’s unnatural: California has no such correlation but some other states fail.

      One should see a random looking up or down plot, or a straight line, or sorta straight. Not a growth curve. That’s because common tactic world wide to alter computer votes is to ads the extra votes based on precinct size.

      Usually each state has easy to get data this way to one’s own source if amusement and the dozens of others who are thinking this might be interesting. Occasionally someone publishes graphs of it to thunderous uncaring.

      It’s not the only problem but it’s the easiest way for non computer people to understand there is more to this

  • Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    A month ago or there abouts, someone posted the statistical breakdown of voting in the last election to Reddit. In the swing states (only the swing states) there was a larger than normal number of ballots where the only thing voted on was the presidential election (Ie not senate or local things). He proposed that Elon had used data from his lottery to select people who he thought were in it for the money and wouldn’t actually vote and voted on their behalf. He made quite a compelling argument.

    • Anti-Face Weapon@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      I remember reading about that too, but it seems kind of contrived for two reasons.

      First of all, we all know it’s very easy to lie with statistics. Even if the statistics did seem damning (which is debatable when I read it), that could be from manipulation.

      Second, the scheme described would fall apart completely with even a SINGLE recount in ONE swing state. Even just a county wide recount would make the whole house of cards fall apart.

      The fact that the current administration has done nothing about this, despite access to some of the best data, analysts, and intelligence in the world, seems to imply that it is most likely not true.

      • quixotic120@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 month ago

        On the last point there is a precedent to not bother when the Supreme Court is stacked against you, and the Supreme Court of 2000 was outright balanced compared to the kook show of today

        When George w won Florida under fairly suspect terms in 2000 gore pushed it a bit and probably should’ve pushed it more. The recount was sketch as fuck, the margin was literally like 500 votes for the entire state, it was later found that a bunch of counties never actually did the recount, George’s brother was the governor, his cousin at Fox News made the first call that Florida and the election went to him, just a lot of fuckery all around. And there was a lot more to it than that but that’s the stuff they couldn’t bring up in court for various reasons.

        Gore pushed back and went to the Supreme Court with it and lost.

        So say there was strong evidence beyond major statistical anomalies. Do you think the stacked court system isn’t going to do everything possible to shoot down anything possible to actually litigating it? The democrats are well aware the only chance they would possibly have is if they literally had the most airtight evidence known to man of fraud, like elon himself admitting fraud with all the receipts to back it up, and even then they’d probably hit some kind of roadblock

        Anyway I think what people are referring to is this letter about bullet ballots:

        https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941

        It’s an interesting point that is unverifiable and could only be investigated by the current admin but see above. Given they only have about 5 hours left and frankly trump has been acting as president since he was elected anyway I don’t think it would matter even if the above was moot

        • Anti-Face Weapon@lemmy.world
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          1 month ago

          I will say that I think the discourse around the 2000 elections is generally very flawed. The SC ruled that you cannot do recounts only of select counties, which is a ruling that is actually pretty fair and reasonable. Furthermore, Florida later did a full recount and Bush won the state.

          • quixotic120@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            1 month ago

            So like fine, you have to review the whole state? Fine. But then address the other nonsense too. Address that tens of thousands of paper ballots were incompatible with machine counting and somehow had to be discarded even though they were easily human verifiable. Explain why these ballots were 3x more likely to be discarded in precincts that had a black majority.

            Explain why NORC reviewed the ballots that voting machines rejected from the entire state and found it would’ve resulted in a gore win, albeit a very thin one

      • Zagorath@aussie.zone
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        1 month ago

        First of all, we all know it’s very easy to lie with statistics. Even if the statistics did seem damning (which is debatable when I read it), that could be from manipulation.

        Fwiw I recall seeing someone make the same analysis about high numbers of President-only ballots, only they reached a much less conspiratorial conclusion to explain it. I forget what the explanation was, but if multiple different people are analysing the same data in the same way, especially if their explanation is different, it lends credence to the idea that the analysis itself is fair.

      • djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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        1 month ago

        I would not trust the Biden administration to act in the people’s best interests on this matter, it’s entirely possible that any scrutiny on the 2024 election got handwaived due to Democrats not wanting to look like Trump-esque sore losers.

      • jpreston2005@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        The fact that the current administration has done nothing about this, despite access to some of the best data, analysts, and intelligence in the world, seems to imply that it is most likely not true.

        Yeah, entrenched democrats in power couldn’t possibly be feckless idiots 🙄

    • SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      1 month ago

      I recall seeing something similar to that but never being able to find anything vetted on it.

      Id hate to sound like an election conspiracy theorist but there was a lot of conversation around star link and it being used for the voting machines. Another thing I personally was never able to confirm.

    • Serinus@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      That was complete bullshit. The numbers didn’t check out. The “only swing state” thing wasn’t true and it was pretty easy to verify.

        • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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          1 month ago

          I hate giving him the benefit of the doubt:

          Dudes never been able to stay on track when talking and tangents harder than I do off my meds. Dude started to praise Elon and his computers and his barely-functional mind connected computers to voting machines so that just got slotted right the fuck in there

          Too many people who habe actual interest in finding it haven’t been able to, election fraud is very unlikely here sadly

  • CurlyChopz@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    On one hand, I don’t think Elon could actually “hack” a voting machine.

    On the other, he did basically just pay people to vote for him trump, so maybe he had other, more heavy handed methods…

    • glimse@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      Have you not been paying attention to this career? Elon Musk doesn’t actually do anything but stuff still happens.

      Maybe he hacked the machines in the same way he grinded PoE2

      • kameecoding@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 month ago

        Elon is an awesome hacker, he just did an RPC call using visual basic on the mainframe to hack the GUI and get through all 3 firewalls

        • glimse@lemmy.world
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          1 month ago

          I heard he reverse engineered the DNS and published a git lull which resulted in a total NVME DDOS of the computational cores.

  • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    1 month ago

    I recognize Juan Guaidó as interim president of the United States until we figure out what happened

  • dnick@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    The issue isn’t that musk could have interfered, the issue is that Trump thinks he did and is happy about the possibility that he did.

  • TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    1 month ago

    If there was interference Elon hired someone to do it. That man is an idiot and there’s no way he engineered it. If there’s interference then there are multiple parties who are aware and the more people you have who know the higher the chance for someone to leak the truth. Fingers crossed?

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 month ago

      I doubt there was actual vote-rigging on any serious scale. But it’s hilarious that Trump’s syphilis-riddled brain thinks that’s why he won.