196 mods were using lemmy.world accounts, not blahaj.zone accounts so due to issues with federation sometimes reports would not be dealt with for days, ada the instance admin would take care of some of these reports, however the 196 mods disagreed with some of the decisions she made. they decided to move the community to lemmy.world, by locking the original community and linking the new one, for various reasons people were upset. some people were defederated by default, some didnt want to go on lemmy.world servers or had their instanced blocked, and some many didnt like how the mods handled the situation in general during the whole ordeal.
Differences in moderation practices. See the pinned thread for a full explanation, because despite Erotador’s confidence in speaking for us, the federation issues had nothing to do with our differences.
“I have asked 196 for years now to have an active blahaj.zone mod so that someone can deal with the blahaj.zone reports that constantly come through and build up, but still, the best we got were mods with alt accounts that get checked every couple of days, leaving me to deal with the build up of reports on 196. Sometimes they would hang around there for days while I waited for a 196 mod to log in and look at them. And because you don’t like the way I deal with them, you drag me over the coals for my moderation style, despite no one from 196 stepping up to deal with those reports on a regular basis.”
i assumed this was a federation issue due to yall not using blahaj.zone accounts.
I understand, but it has nothing to do with our differences with Ada.
Also, we do use LBZ accounts :p One of our most active mods actually has their main (and possibly only) account there. Plus, Qaz has an alt there and many other instances just to deal with the federation issues. Moss’s main account (head moderator) is also on LBZ. I would too if I weren’t still waiting on my application to be read…
I don’t think the problem stems from not using LBZ, because IIRC Qaz found loads of reports that could only be seen from SDF. I don’t understand why, but what I do know is that federation can make a mess of things sometimes, and this is one of those things.
Yeppp… This is something I keep hearing, and I used to be hopeful that the FOSS nature of Lemmy would negate this issue, but alas…here we are two years later :/
There are absolutely viable forks/rewrites of the Lemmy backend. Sublinks was the one I was keeping an eye on, but progress seems to have slowed down significantly on that. It’s supposed to be a drop-in replacement for Lemmy that continues working with current apps.
I thought part of the difference with piefed is that it’s not a drop-in replacement that can hook into current databases, such that an instance would have to start afresh on a new subdomain, and users would have to sign-up again, re-subscribe to their communities, etc. Is that the case, or was I mistaken?
I’ve already addressed this. We have LBZ mods, and it’s not the issue.
You’re really testing my patience. If you’re so desperate to unearth a flaw in our mod practices, make the next attempt count because I’m just about done engaging with you.
I guessed I missed that! But why, though?
196 mods were using lemmy.world accounts, not blahaj.zone accounts so due to issues with federation sometimes reports would not be dealt with for days, ada the instance admin would take care of some of these reports, however the 196 mods disagreed with some of the decisions she made. they decided to move the community to lemmy.world, by locking the original community and linking the new one, for various reasons people were upset. some people were defederated by default, some didnt want to go on lemmy.world servers or had their instanced blocked, and some many didnt like how the mods handled the situation in general during the whole ordeal.
Wow! Seems like there was an easier solution 😆. Thanks for the recap!
Differences in moderation practices. See the pinned thread for a full explanation, because despite Erotador’s confidence in speaking for us, the federation issues had nothing to do with our differences.
im basing what i said off of this quote from ada linked here https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/12466657
“I have asked 196 for years now to have an active blahaj.zone mod so that someone can deal with the blahaj.zone reports that constantly come through and build up, but still, the best we got were mods with alt accounts that get checked every couple of days, leaving me to deal with the build up of reports on 196. Sometimes they would hang around there for days while I waited for a 196 mod to log in and look at them. And because you don’t like the way I deal with them, you drag me over the coals for my moderation style, despite no one from 196 stepping up to deal with those reports on a regular basis.”
i assumed this was a federation issue due to yall not using blahaj.zone accounts.
I understand, but it has nothing to do with our differences with Ada.
Also, we do use LBZ accounts :p One of our most active mods actually has their main (and possibly only) account there. Plus, Qaz has an alt there and many other instances just to deal with the federation issues. Moss’s main account (head moderator) is also on LBZ. I would too if I weren’t still waiting on my application to be read…
I don’t think the problem stems from not using LBZ, because IIRC Qaz found loads of reports that could only be seen from SDF. I don’t understand why, but what I do know is that federation can make a mess of things sometimes, and this is one of those things.
The lead devs of Lemmy seem hostile to significantly improving the moderation tools for both moderators and admins.
Yeppp… This is something I keep hearing, and I used to be hopeful that the FOSS nature of Lemmy would negate this issue, but alas…here we are two years later :/
There are absolutely viable forks/rewrites of the Lemmy backend. Sublinks was the one I was keeping an eye on, but progress seems to have slowed down significantly on that. It’s supposed to be a drop-in replacement for Lemmy that continues working with current apps.
!piefed_meta@piefed.social is definitely more promising
I thought part of the difference with piefed is that it’s not a drop-in replacement that can hook into current databases, such that an instance would have to start afresh on a new subdomain, and users would have to sign-up again, re-subscribe to their communities, etc. Is that the case, or was I mistaken?
Why haven’t you posted to !main@lemmy.blahaj.zone to get that solved?
I’ve already addressed this. We have LBZ mods, and it’s not the issue.
You’re really testing my patience. If you’re so desperate to unearth a flaw in our mod practices, make the next attempt count because I’m just about done engaging with you.
Oh nooo did you not like the consequences of making a unilateral and extremely unpopular descision? Better start silencing the dissenters quick!