• abbadon420@lemm.ee
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    The problem with getting everyone up to Richard’s level is that it’s just not possible. There are not enough resources. We would need so much slave labour for everyone to enjoy a Richard lifestyle. Maybe some kind of futuristic robots could do it. But I don’t see that happening in this world. Someone could do it, but someone else would grab all the profits for themselves, screwing everyone else over.

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      3 months ago

      The only reason there’s “not enough resources” is because someone is always trying to make money off them. There’s plenty of resources, their distribution just won’t make anyone rich if we share and share alike.

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        3 months ago

        And the pandemic showed that when people value their lives and time properly, minimal wages aren’t enough, which is why the supply of restaurant, hotel and grocery workers was so low. The ceos blamed $1000 checks though while keeping wages lower that needed and raking in profits.

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      Didn’t Elon Musk spend $45 billion on Twitter after promising to end world hunger if someone gave him a plan to do so? I think that would be a few years’ worth of ending global hunger if the estimate of $8-10 billion per year is even remotely still accurate.

      There is more than enough money, food, and shelter in the world. But the rich are using the money they got by exploiting people to buy media companies, yachts, islands, and space rockets.

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        The problem with ending world hunger is, food abundance allows for more people. If you want to end world hunger, you need to start with healthcare and contraceptives and education, which is more expensive and less “flashy” than just saying “I bought a lifetime supply of rice for poor people in X area”.

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          The problem with ending world hunger is, food abundance allows for more people.

          That is a garbage take… as is all right-wing “overpopulation” bullshittery.

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            It’s not, there is some nuance here.

            The right-wing take is that we should use this potential crisis to lockdown borders, deny aid to others, and have it as an excuse why you don’t have to do anything to fight climate change, becuase people in (pick whatever the current scary country is) are breeding out of control, and coming here and ruining things for us.

            The left wing take is to promote healthcare, education, and contraceptive use, while providing aid, making those benefits available to everyone, and empowering yourself and others to act.

            The facts about population dynamics is not a right or left wing thing. What you think is the solution to the situation is.

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              It’s not, there is some nuance here.

              Not really. The problem is fundamentally not one of population, but one of consumption. Specifically, the consumption of a small minority of rich people and the capitalist mode of production that keeps them rich. There may be no such thing as “overpopulation,” but there is most definitely such a thing as overconsumption.

              The last time I checked, it would take the resources of four earths if everyone on the planet consumed resources at the rate the average USian does, and keep in mind that this metric - average US consumption - is heavily skewed by the batshit insane consumption of the priveleged classes in the US.

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                Ah yes, the US is the reason why other countries can’t grow enough food.

                Yes there is nuance here. It’s idiotic to think that the interaction between population density, climate change, agricultural technology, supply line disruptions, international relationships and literally everything else, impacting the ability to provide food in a specific location on the planet is a black and white issue.

                Shit, I should of realized it was you. The naive dogshit logic should have tipped me off.

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                  Buy into right-wing fairy tales and apologetics all you want… it’s only a matter of time before they come crashing down, just like the lies about your fetishized little white supremacist “heavenly kingdom” there in the middle-east came crashing down recently.

                  And there’s not much you can do to stop it, apologist.

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      Nah, I think it could be done if billionaires didn’t hoard all the wealth. The wealth of some of these people is enough to live confortably for several lifetimes.

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        Even at 10 million dollars for a lifetime (which is way more than I’ll make in a lifetime) 1 billion is 100 lifetimes’ worth.