Bye bye.
“Utilities threatens to shut off my power so… I will turn off all the lights in protest!”
That’ll show ‘em.
Not the same. If all the users lose access in one go and a prompt allows them to easily send a mail to their representatives then they can put pressure.
If they allow content to flow it could be 12+ months before some users start receiving errors when the ban is out of their mind. They might associate the less US content with the app not being good anymore.
Has anyone in the House or Senate leadership that has received classified briefings on this done anything to oppose it? An email campaign is going to change absolutely nothing.
I know the technicality is that it will be voluntarily stopping service rather than just ending new downloads like the ban says.
But “app will shut down when banned” is almost comically anti-news.
I wonder if they’ll sell or go down in flames.
If they sell, it’ll just become overly moderated like Facebook.
If they go down in flames, a bunch of overnight competitors will compete to succeed.
Did you see the post made by Zucker? They’re going to stop moderating posts, especially those made from, Right wing motherfuckers
They can moderate by boosting certain opinions and downranking others. It doesn’t need fact checkers because it’s platform owner interests and not facts that matter.
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It’s their second highest market after Indonesia? They dragged this out as much as possible in congress and in court because its valuable to them.
It weirds me out that I can easily see a post is in lemmy.world by the comments
nobody told me federated social media would be federated boofuckinghoo
I see ZERO discussion about how this is obvious theatre. We are so incapable of standing up to basic manipulation tactics from the right.
trump first started using tiktok as another xenophobic boogeyman, in what was a fairly nuanced situation - trump’s position being completely wrong, but ultimately some truth to the fact that companies run in China inherently have involvement of the Chinese government and thule should be reached, monitored and if abused, access should be removed.
This actual push was always meant to be something to hang on Biden admin either way (because again, some valid points to a potential ban) but in reality trump will now “save” this artificial shutdown to “restore tiktok” and millions of low information voters and non voters alike will think he did something. And in the meantime, whatever the fuck this lemon8 and red whatever apps are will likely be a huge privacy monitoring home as midst will leave things dormant in background as well after tiktok is “restored”.
Again, we are just so I’ll equipped for anything to do with technology.
I agree with you.
And, well, I assume everything coming from the US is
theaterentertainment from the get-go. That’s why I don’t even bother discussing it anymore although I have recently pointed that out about Trump is trying to divert with the Greenland fiasco and the media is being complicit. This is just another one of the pile. I think he’s purposely flooding the media and pushing for Americans’ mental exhaustion.ultimately some truth to the fact that companies run in China inherently have involvement of the Chinese government
I’d say that’s an understatement. The Chinese government is greatly involved in many aspects of their social media because they don’t have speech protections for individuals nor the press. Xi wants absolute control, so the Chinese government is also involved in other questionable news this week about sponsoring hackers who were primarily targeting the US for gathering intelligence: Millions of Americans caught up in Chinese hacking plot - US. They had state-sponsored malware on 10,000 computers targeting civil rights activists. It doesn’t seem in their interest to play fair, I wonder what their strategy would be if Trump steps in to stroke hes ego and agrees.
Also, part of me thinks one of his aides overheard someone talking about banning TikTok for this reason and thought to himself, “Sounds good but it’s too leftist for us to peddle. This would be great to pin on the old geezer!.” and pitched it to Trump as a win-win. It’s absurd, don’t listen to me.
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This guy is getting downvoted for truth. TT is the only big media platform that consistently promotes socialist policies and openly attacks western status quo. If there are any truly ideological reasons to ban TT it was because of that. We’re being ruled by the oligarchs and their interests were threatened but let’s not kid ourselves - China has their own who’d happily take their place.
I wouldn’t really say TikTok is socialist like, but yeah it’s clear it was only banned because they don’t like it and not its harms
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Yes the country with 200 billionaires is totally socialist and not a capitalistic shithole borrowing honor from their own past because modern Chinese leadership is such a tragic failure.
China is socialist like 1940 Germany was socialist.
can’t really explain those camps away, can they…
There will just be a new (US based) TikTok copycat that springs up, or many. Banning one social media cancer doesn’t stop the others
This is all about pressuring Bytedance to sell to any of the large US companies dying to get that user base. Remember that one party is currently loaded with tech bros with no ethics.
Bytedance seems willing to play chicken and hit the wall as a gamble about coming out of this less hurt than anyone else.
A lot of people are saying that the US government banned TikTok, but from what I’m understanding, that’s not really what happened and what’s happening. Or have I misinterpreted things? From what I understand, they were told they had to divest and sell, but they fought that and now are opting to shutdown rather than comply. Is that not the case?
Either way, I’m gonna go all “I walked to school uphill both ways barefoot in a meter of snow” on this and say that my very little experience with TikTok users seems to suggest that its not much more than pure, unadulterated brain rot. So regardless of the fact(s) (i.e. shutdown / banned / etc), there’s maybe the tiniest sliver of a net positive here. Or not. It doesn’t affect me one way or the other and given where this country is politically (as well as where it is headed), I don’t give a rat poopoo.
I’m posting the same comment in two replies here now, terrible behaviour, but yes exactly this was an attempt to force a sale and get tiktok into American ownership.
It feels very neat that America would think tiktok would ultimately choose the option where it gets more money, but that the Chinese instead choose control.
that being the case, doesn’t that provide more merit to tiktok being a data mining operation that China uses against American interests?
brain rot
It’s a superior algorithm. You get what you engage with.
I’m going to miss the largest community of left leaning American creators, educators, and activists. I’ve learned so much about politics, social engagement, and community building.
But that’s just my feed. I’m sure there’s a lot of crap too.
how dare you bring an enlightened perspective into the Chinese brain rot on this platform! /s
Ok.
(I bet tiktok doesn’t shut down, but if it does I can’t wait for my kids to tell me about all the meltdowns at middle school over tiktok shutting down. Too many parents let their kids have unfettered internet access. No, mine don’t have tiktok.)
No, mine don’t have tiktok
Bet they do
No. They don’t.
I installed the home LAN, set site restrictions, app restrictions, use parental controls on all their devices, use OpenDNS family shield, PiHole, and app installation controls on their devices.
Even of they did find a way to see it I would see the IP address flagged.
Sounds draconian, but social media is fucked up for kids. They can have access at 16. They have a shitload of other internet freedom, though. They’re good kids.
And all of their friends have the same firewalls when they go to hang out?
Not trying to be rude but it seems kinda naive.
My little sister is also not allowed on tiktok but she just uses it on her friend’s phones when they hang out.
Their web browsers are restricted off. They cannot install any apps. This discussion is about what my kids have on their devices, and telling me they might see it elsewhere is irrelevant.
I don’t think you understand my knowledge level, you do me disservice by assuming I’m naive, and your rudeness is because of changing the conditions of the discussion to make yourself right by changing the parameters based on that invented naïveté.
No, I can’t control what they see at their friend’s houses on someone else’s device. I saw the playboy channel at a friend’s house when I was a kid and I didn’t have cable at my house. That’s what kids do. I understand and accept this. I’m not a tyrant or control freak or clutching my pearls. That’s the part where you get to discuss good and bad about social media or any aspect of the internet with your kids, like a parent is supposed to do, and do your best to protect your kids’ mental and physical wellbeing within reason.
Good. TikTok is pure fucking brainrot. People acting like it’s disappearance is some great tragedy make me laugh.
Cool.
Cool cool cool.
If you have $50 Billion, you can buy Tiktok.
I read that Elon Musk might buy it. But the CEO of Tiktok stated that, it isn’t true.
Why would he even need another social media? Besides, dictating what he wants on that site…and make it worse?
I like when Jack Dorsey ran Twitter. It is a crap hole now on there.
As for Tiktok, it won’t matter to me since I am not on there.
The theory is the tiktok “ban” was an attempt to force a sale on favourable terms , but tiktok has called the bluff.
you can buy TikTok
Not if they’re not selling
Cannot wait to stop receiving these fuckin links
TikTok might start being not shit after this, but I’m not risking exposure until I have confirmation
