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Good, it is about time we stop shoving this idea down everyone’s throats. We don’t need the propaganda everywhere we turn in our day to day lives. They can enable it during the month of June when every corporation turns their icons rainbow, and leave it at that.
bet you’re huge on facebook
I don’t use any social media with the exception of Lemmy. No Tiktok, No Instagram, No Facebook, No Threads, No Twitter, none of it. I still see constant alphabet-mafia propaganda everywhere.
Why don’t you add Lemmy to the list of social media you don’t have?
Nah. I’ll be here for the foreseeable future. If only just to make the echo chamber a little less echo-y.
Noted
Looking at your moderation history, it doesn’t seem that way…
Oh no, not my mod history! Whatever will I do? You’ll see all the echo-chamber mods that removed my posts for having a different opinion! Oh noooooooooooooooo
Anyways… you could discuss the topic at hand…
alphabet mafia
Hahahahaha you people are so fucking weird
Have you ever considered it’s not propaganda and just people wanting to feel comfortable in their own skin? Propaganda is saying identifying as non-cis is wrong. Identifying itself as anything, including cis is just called “living”.
Propaganda is saying identifying as non-cis is wrong.
No, Propaganda is pushing any viewpoint you want to be more adopted. It doesn’t necessarily have to disparage anything else.
Like an iPhone ad. They don’t put up messages that are like “ew you’re an Android user, you’re so stupid and ugly”…they just put up an ad talking about how awesome having an iPhone is.
Same thing.
You don’t need a facebook theme to feel comfortable in your own skin. It’s there so you can make absolutely sure that everyone around you knows your orientation. Like an advertisement.
This is the dumbest shit I’ve read today. Thanks
Congratulations, you’re about as smart as a MAGA republican then.
Propaganda is the deliberate dissemination of information aimed at influencing public opinion, often through manipulation and selective presentation of facts[1][7]. It typically serves a specific agenda and employs emotional appeals or distortions to persuade an audience[5][9].
In contrast, an LGBT theme in a messenger app promotes inclusivity and representation without manipulating beliefs. It encourages acceptance rather than enforcing a specific ideology, allowing users to express their identity freely[8]. This distinction highlights that while propaganda seeks to control perceptions, inclusive themes foster understanding and dialogue.
Citations and additional reading suggestions : [1] Propaganda | Definition, History, Techniques, Examples, & Facts https://www.britannica.com/topic/propaganda [2] The Political Effects of Social Media Platforms on Different Regime … https://tnsr.org/2021/07/the-political-effects-of-social-media-platforms-on-different-regime-types/ [3] Propaganda techniques - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_techniques [4] Propaganda Explained - Media Literacy Clearinghouse https://www.frankwbaker.com/mlc/propaganda-explained/ [5] Understanding Propaganda: Definition, Techniques, and Examples https://www.netreputation.com/understanding-propaganda/ [6] Fake news - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_news [7] Propaganda - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda [8] How cool is the pride theme on messenger?! : r/lgbt - Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/lgbt/comments/hpwvh5/how_cool_is_the_pride_theme_on_messenger/ [9] Propaganda | Definition, Types & Examples - Lesson - Study.com https://study.com/academy/lesson/what-is-propaganda-definition-techniques-types-examples.html [10] Propaganda in Canada | The Canadian Encyclopedia https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/propaganda-in-Canada
Congratulations, you’ve somehow managed to read words and still not understand them. That’s certainly not a first on Lemmy, but you’re certainly in a select few!
No, Propaganda is pushing any viewpoint you want to be more adopted.
If you see a black person on TV, do you think that will make you want to become black?
Absolutely. I had a phase in my life like that. I grew out of it eventually. If I had never been introduced to black culture, do you think I would have ever taken to it?
The fact that you think being black is a lifestyle choice does a lot to explain your other comments in this thread.
Thanks for the reminder of why I have you tagged as “Transphobic Piece of Sh¡T”
Same reason I have you tagged as a heterophobic. I doubt you’re a piece of shit though. You probably at least mean well.
heterophobic.
My man just managed to write the dumbest comment I’ve ever read on Lemmy, congrats. I wonder how long it will take for somebody to overtake your achievement.
Aww a triggered cissy, how cute :D I hope your life is full of heterophobes :3
I hope one day you will read your comments from 2025 and think: “Oh shit, was I this obnoxious!”
Thanks for the reminder that I can tag users!
You sound like such a bottom right now.
If a colour theme is enough to set you off, you may want to have an honest conversation with yourself about those feelings you are repressing.
And they always phrase it as something being “shoved down their throat”. Freud would have a field day with it.
Well he was Freud. Everything tied back to dicks and mothers. Make of that what you will. Maybe it was a Freudian slip.
It’s rumoured that he and Jung were sharing more than their theories on psychoanalysis in their formative years, so maybe that had a lasting effect.
If colors can disgust you this much, you’re the problem. People who identify as LGBTQIA+ live their lives by that same identity 12 months out of the year, not when it’s convenient for bigots and corporations.
Can we get people to also then stop shoving their cisgender straightness down our throats as well? Would only be fair.
Can you provide an example of this cis shit being showed in your throat on fediverse?
We are talking about the general public sphere, not here.
OK then example in the public sphere that you don’t like?
It’s not that I don’t like it, I couldn’t care less. But as an example, let’s see, how about, almost a hundred years of straight heterosexual cisgender couples sucking face in the vast majority of movies and TV shows ever produced?
Don’t forget the toxic Manosphere out there in the genpop. Many young men are drawn into the Rogan-type bs.
OK… But they are the majority and the target audience for these movies.
Do you expect heterosexual relationships to be censored?
If you cant handle non heteo relationships, then why should anyone be forced to handle hetro relationship? See how stupid you sound?
Do you expect heterosexual relationships to be censored?
If we’re choosing to censor non-heterosexual relationships? Absolutely.
What does it being the majority have to do with it? Being skinny is overrepresented in movies but that doesn’t seem to hurt sales.
its getting SHOVED down your throat is it? are you gagging? is your mascara running? fuck off
Yeah look at all the gays and trans kids that got propagandized to be straight and cis because of all the heteronormativity in the media!
Here’s someone who hasn’t ever read a study on population and how many people identify as trans in nations that support it…
Because that’s literally what happens. On both “sides”. (I kind of cringe at calling them sides, because I don’t care about their orientation, but for the sake of argument)
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/
It’s almost like lefties, or autistic people. Now that there’s widespread awareness and easy(-ish) medical diagnosis available, people end up figuring out they’re zebras instead of weird horses.
And, like left handed people it will most likely plateau at a steady percentage after a while.
Are the bright colors giving you impure thoughts?
Why would sex be considered ‘impure’ anyhow? Humans moved past pleasure simply for procreation long ago. You can do whoever you want, idgaf. Are you assuming I’m some sort of religious follower? Nah. Pretty anti-theist and non-believing. Thanks for participating! You missed your mark though.
Humans moved past pleasure simply for procreation long ago.
An interesting collection of words in an order I’m sure made sense when you typed it.
Messenger has themes?
This right here is why decentralized media like Lemmy and Mastodon are important.
Because they’re the only kind of places where this isn’t explicitly always happening (instead of only sometimes on some shitty servers that nobody else federates with)
These are the last places that you will actually be able to have relatively real, unfiltered conversations as opposed to corporate-curated conversation.
That reminds me of the late 90s when people suggested getting a mac because macs didn’t have viruses.
They didn’t have viruses because hardly anyone used them.
Metafilter is from the late 90’s and still isn’t overrun with bots and other bullshit and it’s still widely used by many professionals.
You know the difference? They didn’t prioritize explosive cancer-like growth and instead prioritized community and thus it’s still a great site with plenty of people, plenty of discussion, and almost no “viruses,” to use your analogy.
The 90’s was also when there were thousands of different websites and not everything was centralized on Facebook/Reddit/Xitter. We’re simply reverting to that better version of the internet.
Also things like transparent moderation logs exist in the fediverse, so there’s more controls the users have to see if their admins/mods are actually working in their interests. Everything on the centralized platforms is a blind “trust us.”
Say you’re a hateful bigot without saying you’re a hateful bigot.
Don’t worry, they’re saying it too! https://theintercept.com/2025/01/09/facebook-instagram-meta-hate-speech-content-moderation/
Sexualizing 17-year olds is on with them now?
Does the Facebook cafeteria serve pizza and/or have a basement?
Sexualizing 17-year olds is ok with them now?
Well, 17 is maybe a bit too old for them, but it’s better than nothing.
GOP AGs Argue Fewer Pregnant Teens Deprive States of Population Increases https://www.commondreams.org/news/gop-abortion
Being conservative is a medical condition that is created through a bad childhood with lacking empathy and no proper education. Republicans want to breed the next generation of their voterbase. Teen pregnancies are just one piece of that puzzle.
Thanks leaded gasoline!
How is being trans sexual? Even if its using a slur to refer to them…
Oh I can answer this one!
The areas with the highest anti-trans sentiment also consume the most trans pornography.
This is the anchor point, because they only interact with trans people through pornography, they view them as sexualized at their core.
This is why there’s so much “they shove their sexuality in our faces” talk because to these people, trans people existing at all is “shoving it in their face.”
Why? Once again, because they, in their own minds, have reduced trans people to sex objects.
The important part of it is that bit that says “(beneath photo of 17 year old girl)” because it’s just a photo. To look at a photo and immediately assume what they have going on their pants is the definition of sexualizing it. It’s just an innocuous photo of a teen, and now they’ve made it sexual by thinking way too much about what kind of genitals this innocent teen has. Literally, this could be a cisgender girl, no less. They’re flat out making an assumption, the example does not say one way or another. So what, does she need to show her pussy to these people to prove she’s cisgender and stop the abuse?
What does it say about a person when they see a photo of a teen and their first thought is about what genitals they have? It says they view everything through a lens of sex, and they have sexualized this girl for spending, once again, way too much time thinking about her genitals, genitals which have no impact on them as viewers of the photo.
By jumping to her genitals, they’ve sexualized it, and that’s because they only view trans people as sex objects.
How is discussing a 17-year old’s genitals outside a doctor’s office not sexual?
What do people’s genitals have to do this this?
I know you are being technically accurate about gender identity, but we’re not talking about you, and the example here is someone posting “look at that tranny”. They are absolutely thinking about genitals.
I don’t think I could write a single one of those sentences at the behest of an employer.
I’m already seeing people I know personally whining that they can’t stop using Facebook because they need it for work reasons. People will rationalize anything if it inconveniences them even mildly.
I gave mine up spring of 2016 and never looked back. Surprisingly it didn’t have to do with the election either. I remember talking to a few friends a few months later and they said I got out at the right time since it was the start of the crazies coming out of the woodwork.
I have no clue how people can be so addicted to stuff like this that they make all the excuses in the world to not go through with it.
I get the work purposes thing, but at the same time there are too many businesses without their own website where they could post more information for pretty cheap prices.
You can still cut it out from your personal life and your scrolling.
And what is the problem with that? Dont like it? Block it and move on… I dont like a lot of things i see and im not whining like a baby about it, i ignore and move on. Grow up
My brother in Christ, you are whining about people expressing opinions you don’t like right now. Why don’t you ignore it and move on? Grow up.
Nope, they just follow the money (hint: Trump). And they were doing that before (i.e., pretending to be diversity-friendly). Corps have no ethics nor morals, the just follow the money.
I suppose it always was rainbow capitalism. No way somebody with too much money for them to have to care about marginalized people would.
It’s like a computer virus but spread by a human. Everything is becoming a Trump media megaphone. Hate and arguments are now good engagement analytics.
Prepare for a wave of unmoderated enshittification the likes of which has no rival.
Look, Trump won an overwhelming 49.9% of the popular vote to Harris’s meager 48.4%, of the 63.9% of eligible voters who turned out. We need to acknowledge the massive landslide victory this was, the clear mandate it provides Trump, and forfeit all gains made for equality and inclusion made over the last 50 years.
/s
This is the actual woke mind virus. Turns out it wasn’t a virus making people woke, it was a virus making Republicans obsessed with a word they don’t understand
Zuck, meet Luigi
In all seriousness it’s not a cure for all our ailments. As much as some people may have “earned” themselves a forced retirement it can be incredibly easy to frame it as a purely political hit and then swing the pendulum back the other way and take out someone actually fighting for democracy. The United Health CEO seems to have been universally accepted as human garbage.
How many billionaires do you know actively fighting for democracy?
These companies just go whichever way the wind blows. Which is exactly what you would expect.
What in the holy fuck?
I don’t agree with the loosened moderation rules, but at least there is a logical explanation. But removing these 2 color options is just targeted hate towards these minorities.
Damn, they well full mask off.
Not sure what you mean, but I read it as full musk off - not sure really what that would mean either but it somehow makes more sense.
“Mask off” refers to taking off the facade of something and showing their true selves. In the case of meta/twitter/etc. the changing of policy from protecting groups that are discriminated against (ineffectively, but at least pretending to try) to actually promoting hate and discrimination is revealing their true selves as bigots and hate mongers.
I think they were confused because of the typo. It should say “they went full mask off”
Thanks
Is this sucking up or just finally feeling free to show their true self?
Yes
Given it’s a commercial company. It’s probably the first.
Helpful links on how to delete stuff that’s meta owned
Permanently Delete Your Facebook Account
What even is a trans and non-binary theme?
Isn’t it just some colours?
Yes, it’s just some colors. If you can’t handle a picture with some colors, you’ve got a problem.
When did I have a problem with it? 🤔
I’d guess pride colors, depictions of Blahaj (that IKEA shark that’s popular among trans folks), stuff of the sorts. Stuff that right wingers get offended by.
I can understand “not doing things” like censoring anti-LGBT stuff, because that cost money. But this COST money to change.
This is so petty it makes me wonder if someone got their feelings hurt by an LGBTQ person and is now having a vendetta against all of LGBTQ.
I feel like this is the Musk thing all over again. The moment these coddled, silver spoon baby fucks stop getting endless praise from progressives they turn to the right because progressive people “owe” them for… something? It’s such a ridiculous sense of entitlement.
I don’t think they’ve ever given a fuck about praise from progressives. This is just a reset back their default position facilitated by the election of a fascist pos. Protections have always been lip service at best. They’ll soak up the praise as long as it’s profitable to do so and not a moment longer.
And just like that the “ally” disappeared but their corporate tyranny remains…
You got to make a show for the king.
