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Why are they doing this for an INNOCENT person???
So when Netflix made a film adaptation of 13 Reasons Why they called in specialists to try and make it tasteful. What happened was they were faxed a list of shit NOT TO DO, only some dumbass in charge of production mistook it for a list of “THINGS YOU ABSOLUTELY SHOULD DO! DO IT! IT’LL BE FUNNY!”, leading to outrage from said professionals who then pondered why they were consulted at all if they were going to be so blatantly ignored and a spike of suicides that coincided with release of the thing. Ya know cause glorifying suicide to a bunch of suicidal people is probably not going to end will.
Anyway, when that guy got fired from Netflix, I’m sure he got hired for the Dark Cabal that writes the talking points for the mass media.
Because they definitely sent him a list of “Shit not to do, because if you did it it would just make Luigi into even more of a Modern Day Robin Hood” and he proceeded to mistake it for a “Definitely do this, because it’ll totally get people to mourn Brian Thomspon.” list
That seems too simplified. Could you point me to where i could read more about this story? Can’t seem to find anything about this advice from specialists
From the fact that the person repeats it in the same comment due to forgetting they already said that joke, we can safely assume it is made up
It was just a joke. The part about them hiring that guy for this spin I mean.
Netflix really did do the “13 Reasons Why” fuck up
That’s what i meant, i want to learn more about that fuck up
They sure do love taking and posting pictures of him and then yelling at people to not give him any press. How many pics have we seen of him in custody? They dont want coverage of him silenced, they want to control that narrative. US justice system is a sad broken dishonest state of affairs.
Every day Trump walks free has been sad proof of that
Why is it terrorism when rich people are killed?
If it’s politically motivated I’m pretty sure it’s terrorism.
But is it politically motivated?
He was pissed his claim was denied.
So, I’ve heard he didn’t actually have UHC. There’s also no confirmation of a denied claim, just the fact that he had back pain. Luigi targeted Brian because UHC was the largest insurance provider in the country, not because he was personally denied a particular claim. The guy was doing long distance hiking and running months before the slaying.
TrueAnon podcast has a great deep dive into who Luigi was and what his potential motives were.
He’s got a background in Effective Altruism, he got into the Dark Enlightenment movement, and was involved with a number of Silicon Valley gurus with particularly extremist ideology.
Far from simply being an unhappy customer, it’s likely he’s a real life “Radical Centrist” who got pilled on far center neoliberal ideology.
Wtf is far center?
It’s a bit like far-left or far-right, except it manages to get bipartisan approval.
I’d say that yes it was definitely at least partially politically motivated, since it was just as much an attack against the system as it was against the person, but hardly terrorism since there was no intent to scare the general public.
He probably did intend to scare insurance company executives. I can see calling it terrorism, even if I think he should get off.
I’ve dealt with back pain, and during the height of my battle with the insurer I absolutely would’ve been tempted to kill the fuckers given the chance.
insurance company executives
Yes but they are not civilians, the are enemy combatants so it is fair game.
Also Luigi if he did it, literally spared witness who is in fact a civilians.
Terrorism charge will hopefully back fire.
I mean he wrote words on bullets (or casings, I dunno) and a manifesto…
….so? How many killers before him have written a manifesto? Are all these school shooters, attacking actual public schools, being charged with terrorism? They’re actually striking out at “the system.” How many white supremacists mass shootings have written manifestos and not been charged with terrorism?
Are all these school shooters, attacking actual public schools, being charged with terrorism?
There’s little need to up-charge school shooters. Many of them are killed on sight. Those that are captured (Dylan Roof, for instance) get life without parole or the death sentence.
But in NYC, a single murder without a terrorist motive only gets you to 2nd Degree Murder. That means you’ll be out in 15 years. The “terrorism” addendum is necessary for life without parole sentencing.
Yes, but the charges should fit the crime not be selected to ensure the desired outcome
There is no objective measure of criminal conduct. It’s all malleable. Prosecutors and judges and juries ultimately make these decisions case-by-case. And the results can be heavily weighted by wealthy, socially influential private interests who want to see an example made of a particularly offensive or terrifying individual.
American soldiers regularly paint imagery and words on the ammunition and vehicles they use to kill people. Are they terrorists too?
The military is political. It is literally policy when the military moves. Anything any military does is dictionary terrorism. But terrorism is a nasty word for it so we don’t call it that.
Makes sense
In some instances, absolutely.
I mean I’d agree lol but I doubt this person equates Luigi and the average American soldier painting a bomb. That’s my point. Writing on a bullet case or writing a political statement doesn’t make one terrorist. It’s the violent acts and who they’re directed at any why that determine it.
I mean, yes. But folks here aren’t ready for that conversation
Don’t worry I agree lol
Yes
sigh yes you’re the third or fourth person to make this joke. Yes I agree.
The point is that nobody calls them terrorists for doing that. Putting words or art on weapons and ammo is considered “normal” as twisted as that is. So Luigi’s doing it does not make him a terrorist.
Is the second guy who tried to shoot trump being charged with terrorism? Because that was politically motivated.
If he’s not, Luigi also does not deserve the charge.
Was the first guy charged?
No he’s dead.
Yeah right, forgot about that.
‘Terrorism’ is just a word for anything the state doesn’t like.
The NY charge calls for a specific action taken against a government entity.
Unless UHC is part of the government, but corporations as government is Musolini style fascism, and the US isn’t a fascist country, right?
Not even killed, but even just made to think their plundering might have consequences.
Terrorism is supposed to be the dogmatic or ideologically motivated killing of civilians, often by those who are willing to die in the process. It’s terror inducing because it could seemingly happen anywhere at any time to any one, and it’s a lot easier to cause harm to others when you’re suicidal and not trying to get away with it.
Of course, that’s not how it’s routinely used, or perhaps was ever really used by anyone except academics.
Cause they only care when rich scum are terrorized.
Who controls the present now controls the past.
There’s like four or five dudes pushing 7ft in this pic
Dude on the far right is up on the curb. But the big fella in the middle is indeed a big fella.
Pretty sure all those dudes are on the far right.
Ayyyyyyyy
Holy shit now that you mention it, homeboy is massive.
There goes my hero …
watch him as he goes…
I love that Adams is there. He literally has no reason to be there other than self promotion. Do you think they discussed the finer points of being indicted federally? Maybe he is trying to get him to ask for a Trump pardon.
He is absolutely doing this to appease trump. Dude is getting hit with terrorism charges here to set up precedent for trump to do whatever the fuck he wants.
“look at what this man did, not what i’ve done!”
-adams, prob
I guess he’s trying to learn more about prison life before he gets his own perp walk.
Hahahaha lmao
Saint Luigi of Baltimore.
Saint Luigi of Wall Street
This just make him look more like a hero that’s oppressed by the government.
If they bring out a regiment to guard your show trial you’re almost certainly on the right side of history.
Probably.
90%
Right side of History, sure, but,
For it’s the end of history
It’s caged and frozen still
There is no other pill to take
So swallow the one
That made you ill
you know, that the end of history crap is what that song criticizes, making it a really strange way to reply to someone saying something is on the right side of history.
Trying to make themselves look like they’ve done something amazing.
they made someone look amazing allright
Lotta cops for a little kid with a busted back
They acting like the whole country wants to kill him when it’s the complete opposite.
Yeah, the thing that’s shocked me is how my most capitalist liberal friends are in agreement he did nothing wrong. Like some of them are even agreeing when I use the phrase “class warfare”
He was a lone wolf and they’re acting like the Mafia might come to free him any moment
Honestly the mafia should free him. Why not? Insurance companies are impeding on the mafias protection racket lol.
Mafia should do something useful for once
I’m curious if they’re actually doing this out of concern that people might try to break him free.
When asked, that’s probably what the police would say as justification. And it sounds almost plausible, until you realize that’s the mayor behind him.
The state trial against Mangione will come before his federal trial, prosecutors said.
WTF? I never heard about federal charges-- isn’t that double jeopardy?
Like the reporter said, they might be trying to make it so there are no copycats, but they clearly don’t understand the number of people that wouldn’t want to be making it out alive. Their trumped up charges aren’t a deterrent.
If I were USian, I’d be mega-pissed that they are making the CEO’s death out like Luigi killed the king.
WTF? I never heard about federal charges-- isn’t that double jeopardy?
The federal charges might be the bullshit terrorism ones. Not double jeopardy because it’s a separate charge.
If I were USian, I’d be mega-pissed that they are making the CEO’s death out like Luigi killed the king.
Oh, I am. We’re teetering on the edge as it is and are scheduled to go straight off the cliff on Jan. 20th. Whatever next year brings, it’s going to be horrific.
See, it’s not for publicity! Eric Adams is there to stop the public from freeing Luigi from law enforcement!
I love this place. Post anything about this on reddit and it’s likely to be removed if it gets too positive or the bots downvote it.
Reddit is a place to promote product. This isn’t product. Give it time and big lemmy servers will turn into reddit, but for now we get to enjoy a safe space.
Thankfully, because of the way Lemmy is built, we will forever have smaller communities that don’t turn into garbage like that.
Reddit let this thing run first week as they couldn’t moderate the sentiment this strong but looks like after that they cracked down.
Lemmy world news sub was suppressing this very aggressively during that time.
Mods dropped in in unrelated sub threatening to remove the discussion if we didn’t keep it “civil”
Some clown ass behavior.
