• Cypher@lemmy.world
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    Robbers are committing violent crime mostly against the working class.

    Cops should go after both robbers and robber barons.

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    There would still be people who stole if we lived in a socialist paradise. And they would still want to be called boss.

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    The machine works as intended.

    Robbers are (allowed to be) part of it so they can take the focus, all the fingerpointing, be the big bad wolf mascot.

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      I’ve been saving up for some space tourism, but you’re right, it’s time to buy a senator. (This is sarcasm.)

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      Not the bonus panel we deserve, but the bonus panel we get.

      The true secret bonus panel is when the cop gets the bonus for the shooting.

  • mkwt@lemmy.world
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    Some folks will rob you with a six gun, and some will rob you with a fountain pen.

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    If police and prisons made societies safer the USA would be the safest society on the planet.

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        I’ve literally never had anybody in my life experience multiple riots, lock downs due to a crazed gunman shooting up his black neighbor and people crashing, burning and dieing in their yard probably due to drunk driving EVER, until I made some American friends. Visiting them was also a trip, fuck they’re paranoid, and honestly I’m not even surprised. You people have police officers stationed at SCHOOLS for crying out loud, how more fucked can it get?!? If I was forced to live in the states I’d also go fucking crazy.

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          I used to get so angry at posts like this. I was an absolute idiot back then. How the hell is this the reality we’ve allowed to be created around us?

      • Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee
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        The US is ranked 132 out of 163 for safety worldwide. I’d say that actually makes the US one of the least safe countries on earth.

        Is it safer than living in a Roman frontier town during the Hun invasion? Probably… but the point is, clearly having the most militarized police and highest prison population doesn’t make things safer.

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          Global Peace Index includes factors like military spending and weapons exports. It’s not a measure of how safe it is to live inside the USA.

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        and the USA is safer than most.

        aaaahahahahahaha. ahahahahahahaahaaaahaaaaa… ahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaa fucking hah!

        NOT funny.

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        You’re using relativism to disprove the idea that overpolicing doesn’t make us safer? My goodness!

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          One lie I’ve heard over and over in my life is how unsafe everything is. Small town people think the cities are unsafe. City people think the small towns are unsafe. They’re not. They’re actually fine. It’s a scare tactic. The media over reports crime. Look at any crime statistics and you’ll see, yes, some recent spikes. As always. But if you’re watching the news you’d think we’ve been in a perpetual crime spike since the 1960’s or so. It’s a safer world right now than it was 50 and 100 years ago.

          The USA is, in fact (even if it upsets you) one of the safest societies in the history of the world. Only behind other modern 1st world nations.

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            In that case we shouldn’t have ANY incidents of police officers murdering people, planting evidence, covering up internal crime or taking bribes.

            Saying, “it’s good enough” in response to “overpolicing doesn’t make us safer” suggests that the overpolicing is ok, and it’s not. So thanks for your input, but I’m upholding my view.

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              I’m not saying it’s “good enough,” I’m saying that it has improved. It will hopefully continue to improve. It’s far from perfect. I have no disagreements there. My problem was with this statement:

              If police and prisons made societies safer the USA would be the safest society on the planet.

              Well it is one of the safest societies on the planet. And it continues to get safer.

              This is not the argument against police you think it is.

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                With one reply you start with backpedaling, then you suggest a moderate approach to the police problem.

                Has hoping that the problem would improve worked for us so far? People are being murdered everyday. When school shootings happen, the cops wait outside for the gunfire to stop before going in.

                Your moderate solutions and hoping for things to improve hasn’t fixed anything. We need a progressive solution or things are going to continue the way they always have.

                I’m sorry but your suggestions aren’t helpful and I won’t be listening to any more of them.

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                  I literally never said anything about police. I’m not trying to argue about police. Just that the world is in fact a safe place that continues to get safer. If the fact that the crime continues to drop, if that destroys your argument about police being bad, then maybe get a new argument about why police are bad. Crime is down. It’s just a statement of fact.

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    For the record, it’s specifically CEOs of S&P 500 companies that make an average of ~18 million/yr.

    https://aflcio.org/paywatch/highest-paid-ceos

    The Standard and Poor’s 500 is ~500 of the largest companies in the country that are publicly traded. It does not include the vast majority of CEO positions in the US, just the biggest.

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    If robbers only earn $7500 a year why on earth do they do it? Why would anyone risk arrest, jail time, criminal record, maybe even being shot by armed security or police, for such a paltry amount of money?

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      You’ll notice that organized crime (ya know, as a metric of success) doesn’t usually rely on robberies as their source of income. Robberies are risky and stupid.

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      Also armed bank robbery is VERY heavily punished. In some places armed robbery with a gun (even a fake gun) can be punished by LIFE in prison.

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          Life in prison is hell. The food is positively horrific (I’ve heard of fecal matter and even insects being in some of their food) and you still need to work every day like a (literal in this case) slave.

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      Oh, because of the primary driver of most kinds of crime:

      Poverty.

      If you want to lower crime, you lower poverty, you put social safety nets in place.

      Does this solve crime 100%?

      No, but its something like one hundred to ten thousand times more cost effective than not doing that and increasing policing instead.

      … America is a country where homeless people routinely commit bank robberies with unloaded guns and then surrender to police … because at least then they get some level of permanent shelter, food, and health care.

  • Mr_Blott@feddit.uk
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    Yanks trying to make up compound insults is, and apologies for using the word, cringe as fuck