[…] Many users are complaining of hallucinated artists’ stats, songs they’ve never heard appearing in most listened lists, and more. Some users aren’t happy with the way that Spotify Wrapped looked this year, complaining that it was boring, and not as creative as previous years. […]
One of the most common complaints seems to be that Spotify Wrapped has misreported on the stats in claims to represent. Now, while this has happened in previous years, this year it seems to be a whole lot more prevalent — as you can see in this Spotify support thread. It’s filled with users complaining about top artists they’ve never listened to, songs appearing in at the top of their lists that they didn’t even know existed, or a mixture of the two.
Just anecdotally talking with people outside the internet-o-sphere and you’ll quickly find people with iffy Spotify Wrapped statistics. I have friends who listen exclusively to bizarre, underground punk acts, and their Wrappeds were topped by the likes of The Weeknd and Taylor Swift. Even on the Tom’s Guide team, we’ve seen strangeness — our own Millie Fender discovered Swift among her top artists, yet her songs didn’t appear in her top 100.
Just read people’s reactions online, especially in the trending topic on X or even the announcement thread on Reddit. Many are blaming Spotify’s pivot to AI this year for the lack of personality, and some even hold it responsible for their weird Spotify statistics. I have reached out to Spotify for comment, but I am yet to hear a response.
What can we do?
First off, there are other streaming platforms with year-end roundups. Deezer, for example, has unleashed My Deezer Year, and like everything the French streamer does, it’s filled with creativity and personality. That’s a streaming service with better sound quality too. Apple Music has its Replay feature, which similarly takes you through your year. There are options.
If you’re duty-bound to Spotify, then there is a way to really check your most-listened-to artists, songs, and genres — Track your listening with Last.FM, for example, which gives you breakdowns over the course of the year. Whatever happens, I (and many others) are hoping that Spotify Wrapped is a whole lot better next year.
You mean the corporation you gave boatloads of personal data to is manipulating it to use against you in the pursuit of profit?! [surprised pikachu.jpg]
I only stick with spotify because it has the best support on linux
Can any linux users can share their experience with other platforms?
I think Deezer has an electron app or something it uses, but it’s worked great for me so far. It costs the same aa Spotify the last I checked, and has a comprable selection.
YouTube music works great, just gotta use an unofficial app
Do you use the official Spotify client or a third party one like ncspot? Not that the latter will remain for long now considering API changes on Spotify’s end.
Official.
Yeah, if they kill off the official app and neuter the other linux based choices then i’ll move on
Qobuz can be installed with bottles and works pretty well.
Tidal has no official Linux app, which is shocking considering their demographic. But a hero has made an app that gets pretty close. Under the hood it’s the web client with some add-ons to support full quality streaming. The user experience is generally fairly close to an official app.
I used soundiiz to convert all my content over, and of probably over 10,000 songs there were less than 100 unavailable, so library isn’t a concern. The increased quality is nice, but the big reason I choose tidal is that instead of doing unnecessary stuff like podcasts they pay artists better. As much as 3X according to some things I’ve read. I have not verified those numbers.
Bandcamp? works good in a browser and supports artists the most
Seconded on Bandcamp, though I don’t stream through it. I just buy albums and play them on whatever music player I have installed. Usually VLC or Amarok!
I think Bandcamp is the only platform where I have actually purchased music in the past decade. It seems like a decent model, and I like getting FLAC versions of a physical album I get.
Recently got the newest Godspeed You! Black Emperor album off Bandcamp. Great shit as always.
Mine says my most played artist is Necroticgorebeast. I’ve never even heard of them. And that name is just so Repugnant!
My wife got Taylor Swift and she never listens to her. My first thought was it must be some kind of hallucination because that doesn’t seem like actual data to me. Even an occasional listen shouldn’t make her top artist.
I’ve always just ignored these lists because I play music for my kids’ bedtime so it’s on every night, all night - therefore my data is always skewed towards kids songs.
Also - my original post is a little cheeky. They’re one of my favourite bands and their latest album is called “Repugnant.” LOL
Why this even calls for generative AI is beyond me. Just post my top 5 artists and top 5 songs. It’s data already available.
Mine said my top artist is Hozier, driving my Goblincore Fantasy Forest phase. I couldn’t name a Hozier song since Take Me To Church, a song that falls into Nickelback territory for me, as in sellouts that get way too much playtime. And no idea how that turned into goblins and fantasy forests.
Only the podcast style overview is ai generated. Since the two voice are not from real human
Goblincore Fantasy Forest, definitely a real human genre.
I think that “take my whiskey meat” song is Hozier. It was popular this year. Maybe you listened to it?
Not seeing that Hozier criticism tbh but agree spotify sucks
If you’re a corpo, not integrating generative AI somewhere is seen as a misstep. Shareholders want to know that their money is being used on the cutting edge.
Of course, both groups are clueless as to where generative AI may actually be useful. But ultimately it doesn’t matter.
Also had goblincore in my genre. Whatever that is…
IIRC, goblincore is an aesthetic related to the more ugly side of nature - think mushrooms, toads, and snakes. But it’s like a fashion/lifestyle subculture thing like “dark academia,” not a music genre.
Listen here, dummy, “AI”. Do you understand?
/s
I switched to Spotube because none of the music apps even have most of the weird songs I listen too, but I still have spotify only for podcasts because there aren’t any platforms that have all the ones I listen too and I’m not looking into finding new ones.
I also don’t want to have 10 apps for 1 podcast each, the closest replacement would be YT music but in their infinite wisdom they combined accounts across videos and music, I don’t want to see followed music artists in my subscriptions on the video app and I’m not paying for 2 premium accounts to keep them separate.
Also apple podcast & music sounds like it might be enough, but I’m now switching to iOS only for podcasts, I like my sideloaded apps thank you.
Sorry I had to vent as this as been pissing me off for a long while.
If you’re on Android, I use AntennaPod for all my podcasts. It’s FOSS that pulls from all the various podcast sources; I have yet to run across a podcast I couldn’t add to my rotation
If you’re ever looking to cut out Spotify completely, maybe see if that fits what you need.
Its been a few days of using the app and honestly I’m loving it a lot more than Spotifys UI, only downside is no good way discover new podcasts similar to what I like but honestly that’s an easy internet search, so I guess there are no downsides that I can’t easily fix.
Dropped Spotify after the CEO said artists music weren’t worth anything and raised their annual fee at the same time. Trash company
Slow news day? Who gives a literal fuck
This is happening because Spotify laid off half it’s staff and thought it could get away with it.
Not every news story needs to be earth shattering. Some can be about mundane things people enjoy.
Switched to Qobuz earlier this year. It has a few issues, but at least it doesn’t have all this absolutely dumb shit that Spotify has. What an improvement.
It just frustrates me how nobody is even close to Spotify Connect nor do they seem to be trying to compete with it. Tidal only half does what I need but I have had a number of major issues with it that are making me go back to Spotify.
That’s your problem? What does it provide that nothing else does?
Seamlessly switching between music players. I can have a song playing on my computer, then switch to my phone when I get in the car.
I tried Tidal earlier this year and that was one of the main complaints I had. Their version only works on specific devices that Tidal is partnered with.
You’re talking about your PIT (place in time) of a file, and not the speakers following you around which I’m positive Spotify doesn’t do.
This is a simple feature that every platform offers, even the FOSS options. It’s not a “feature” of Spotify, it’s just something that every streaming platform does anymore.
Correct, I have to manually select which device to play from, but Spotify also remembers the current playlist when switching. Tidal doesn’t, device sessions are separate.
Spotify doesn’t remember the queue though, so shuffled playlists get reshuffled when switching devices. It causes repeats and it’s really annoying. Deezer has the best session management I’ve used. It remembers the whole queue.
Primarily, remote control from one PC to another. I’ve got a desktop connected to my speakers but when working from home I want to use my work laptop to control the speakers. Tidal has a version of it that can control media streamer devices, but it is unreliable.
I like Qobuz and am winding down my Spotify usage. Although it doesn’t have as many automatic playlists as Spotify, Qobuz does better at recommending music that’s unfamiliar and interesting, whereas Spotify seems to have been circling me around the same drain of 10 songs for months. Qobuz sounds noticably better than Spotify too, on my good headphones. And it has so much information about each album, including CD booklets for many of them. In particular for classical music Qobuz gives you the composer, the players, the conductor, the piece and the movement, whereas Spotify doesn’t know what to do.
And they let you buy the music outright, too!
Recently quit youtube premium due to the price hike finally hitting my country. I’ve been using yt music for my listening.
Since that went away along with yt premium, I dusted off my old music file collection (mix of itunes and bandcamp purchases, cd rips, and soundcloud downloads).
Discovered Qobus looking for places to buy my favorite music to update my collection.
I used to keep my entire collection on my phone, but I opted to start using ytm since I had it and my collection got too big…
But now, I have to say I am blown away with how nice Symfonium+Jellyfin (or another music server) is to use!
Last time I looked into it, nothing handled dynamically keeping a portion of your music on-device for offline play this well!
Features can’t be beat for sure. They skip all the extra BS and just have a quality streaming service. Whodathunk that’s all people want? 🤣
They seem to be what Tidal pretends to be.
Apparently Tidal finally ditched MQA and went back to flac. How they ever went in for it with how shit it it turned out to be with some basic investigation, I have no idea.
It looked wrong when I first clicked it, but then sort of restarted and corrected itself, almost like it started with the wrong data cached.
Wasnt aware of this issue. Mine was accurate.
I didn’t expect it to include podcasts this year, so it outed me to a work colleague (there was a gay podcast I tried in it). He was chill about it, but why the fuck are podcasts even in Wrapped?
I use YouTube Music and I noted the exact same problem this year.
hallucinated
It is just fucking wrong. AI isn’t a living thing that is comparable to a person or animal, or even a plant. It is wrong a lot and that is because it has no motivation or reality or anything like that. It is pattern matching that is not reliable for factual results, and sometimes the results are just wrong.
Good callout. We shouldn’t attribute intent, experience, or any other human characteristics, to software.
I was disappointed in the graphics, but my stats seemed right. The slide for my top podcasts had black text on a black background, but luckily all my top 5 podcasts have their name on their logo. Still looks kinda stupid though.
Listen to the podcast. It’s… Awful. The AI voices trying to do radio show-style things like spelling out some letters of words or enunciating oddly is a whole level of cringe. Plus my podcast was full of hallucinations. Very obviously saying one of my top songs was by a different one of my top artists.
My wrapped stats weren’t super off, but they were off. Clearly some artists they favor or punish in rankings. Whether thats intentional, buggy code, or hallucination, eh, who knows.
Either way, it was a reminder that ive been wanting to switch to tidal for a while. The day list used to be really good, too, but it has had a noticeable drop in quality since the last round of layoffs, and it shows a lot more evidence of being AI-based rather than algorithm-based.
