they are when the folks they killed were fascists. Also, hot take here, I’m pretty sure that the US occupation o Afghanistan was better than the current system in place there.
Of the 18 million veterans alive in the US, only 66,000 are WWII veterans who fought against fascists. The rest of them did nothing but murder children in asia, south america, and the middle east for drugs, oil, and money.
Also, hot take here, I’m pretty sure that the US occupation o Afghanistan was better than the current system in place there.
True, but then again, “better than the Taliban” is a really low bar. Also important to remember that the USA indirectly led them to power via Operation Cyclone
Yes, actually. I’m not saying that all killing is moral. but there are actually objectively bad people and organizations in the world. In one or two wars the US fought in, the US soldiers were actually fighting against objectively evil people and organizations. It’s fine to shoot nazis and slavers.
Obviously most people agree that WW2 was justified to stop the Nazis conquering the world, but you can’t just say “it’s OK to kill someone because they’re X”, because then you just need to label whoever you dislike as part of that out-group and suddenly you’ve justified killing whoever you want.
It’s never fine to say “it’s fine to kill all X”. You need to stop fascists, but you can do that without fucking killing anyone you’ve decided is evil.
it’s fine to kill all X when X is objectively evil, like Nazis and slavers. They aren’t your friends, they’ll kill you and everyone you love without a second thought. It’s not time to play the nuance game and say “but but but killing is bad!”, yeah it is. it is bad.but the only way to stop fascism is by killing it. y you can’t debate it when the boot’s on your neck.
I’m assuming the person you’re imagining to be objectively bad is either literally Hitler or a skinhead neonazi with swastika tattoos and a history of violence, right? What about people who joined the Nazi party because the alternative was having their lives destroyed, or the kid with a bad home life who was radicalised by a gang of thugs who are his only friends? They’re both fascists and victims of fascism, where do you draw the line at who should be killed?
The line being drawn isn’t based on morality, it’s defending yourself and even more innocent people. By the time that radicalized guy has already become a Nazi, it no longer matters why he did it - he’s a danger to everyone, a rabid dog.
It absolutely sucks to see this happen to someone who used to be a person.
I dunno man, an official government which forbids women to literally even speak sounds a lot worse than the shit the US pulled when we propped up Hamid Karzai.
they are when the folks they killed were fascists. Also, hot take here, I’m pretty sure that the US occupation o Afghanistan was better than the current system in place there.
Of the 18 million veterans alive in the US, only 66,000 are WWII veterans who fought against fascists. The rest of them did nothing but murder children in asia, south america, and the middle east for drugs, oil, and money.
True, but then again, “better than the Taliban” is a really low bar. Also important to remember that the USA indirectly led them to power via Operation Cyclone
Ah but it’s OK because the people I killed were all baddies!
Yes, actually. I’m not saying that all killing is moral. but there are actually objectively bad people and organizations in the world. In one or two wars the US fought in, the US soldiers were actually fighting against objectively evil people and organizations. It’s fine to shoot nazis and slavers.
Obviously most people agree that WW2 was justified to stop the Nazis conquering the world, but you can’t just say “it’s OK to kill someone because they’re X”, because then you just need to label whoever you dislike as part of that out-group and suddenly you’ve justified killing whoever you want.
It’s never fine to say “it’s fine to kill all X”. You need to stop fascists, but you can do that without fucking killing anyone you’ve decided is evil.
it’s fine to kill all X when X is objectively evil, like Nazis and slavers. They aren’t your friends, they’ll kill you and everyone you love without a second thought. It’s not time to play the nuance game and say “but but but killing is bad!”, yeah it is. it is bad.but the only way to stop fascism is by killing it. y you can’t debate it when the boot’s on your neck.
I’m assuming the person you’re imagining to be objectively bad is either literally Hitler or a skinhead neonazi with swastika tattoos and a history of violence, right? What about people who joined the Nazi party because the alternative was having their lives destroyed, or the kid with a bad home life who was radicalised by a gang of thugs who are his only friends? They’re both fascists and victims of fascism, where do you draw the line at who should be killed?
The line being drawn isn’t based on morality, it’s defending yourself and even more innocent people. By the time that radicalized guy has already become a Nazi, it no longer matters why he did it - he’s a danger to everyone, a rabid dog.
It absolutely sucks to see this happen to someone who used to be a person.
a ‘hot take’ not just perpetuating united states state department talking points
I dunno man, an official government which forbids women to literally even speak sounds a lot worse than the shit the US pulled when we propped up Hamid Karzai.
Whats happening in Afghanistan did not start or end two minutes ago, that’s such a simplistic take.
Don’t presume everyone you engage with online is a man. You’re dismissing a woman while pretending to champion women.