You always hear the phase “9 to 5” and also the song with the same name. Assuming you include 1 hour worth of breaks (30 minute lunch and two 15 minute breaks), you’re only working for 7 hours a day which comes up to 35 hours a week.

Now it feels like you have to work 8 hours a day (for a total of 40 hours of actual work), plus your other time off meaning you’re really there for 9 hours each day (for a total of 45 hours). Am i looking at that wrong, or did expected times change, and if so, when?

    • jagged_circle@feddit.nlEnglish
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      27 days ago

      Probably the US, specifically. Most of America has unions, except the US has all but made actual unions illegal

    • Sundial@lemm.ee
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      27 days ago

      I’m Canadian myself but isn’t this illegal? In Canada we have a labor program where you can file a complaint if it comes to that.

      • wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works
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        27 days ago

        In Canada full time is whatever an employer decides it is, not 35h, not even 40h. In Quebec an employer isn’t required to give 15mins break. But if they do they must be paid. The 30mins lunch break is mandatory, but also unpaid. You’ve just gotten lucky with decent employers/union jobs. I’d imagine other provinces are similar.

        https://www.cnesst.gouv.qc.ca/en/working-conditions/work-schedule-and-termination-employment/work-schedule/presence-work-breaks-and-weekly-rest-period

        An employer is under no obligation to offer breaks but when a break is granted, it must be paid and be included in the calculation of the hours worked.

        After 5 consecutive hours of work, a worker is entitled to a 30-minute meal break, without pay. If the worker is required to remain at their workstation during this time, their meal break must be paid.

      • Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.winEnglish
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        27 days ago

        Depends on the Province I think. Where I’m at you’re entitled to 30 min off (unpaid) within the first 5 hours, and another within 8 if you’re working longer than 8 hours. 15 min breaks are not mandated except that if the company gives you them they must be paid.

      • smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world
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        27 days ago

        Depends on the state. But the reality is you need to hire a lawyer to fight it and we already have to choose between a roof and food most of the time so good luck with that.

        • Sundial@lemm.ee
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          27 days ago

          That sucks, sorry to hear that. I honestly thought the US had a similar thing as well. I guess that explains the huge push for more unions across the US over the past few years.

          • Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.winEnglish
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            27 days ago

            They have it really bad over there. My understanding is most European countries would laugh at Canadian labour law, but Canada laughs at the US’s.