• sh_it_poster24@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
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      20 days ago

      Americans think Israel is like the Jewish victims of the Holocaust. But Israel is an apartheid colonization project founded on violence. Anne Frank is not the same as Benjamin Netanyahu.

      • Crackhappy@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        20 days ago

        Oh, ok, I did actually understand it, I just didn’t understand it. Thanks friend! Very helpful.

  • B312@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    Agreed but what’s with the weird amount of politics related memes on lemmy meme communities?I wanna laugh not continue glooming about the state of the world

    • angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.comEnglish
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      19 days ago

      I just think it’s a matter of the crowd Lemmy has attracted. The circumstances of Lemmy’s creation and growth aren’t exactly conducive to being full of fun loving people.

    • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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      20 days ago

      It’s probably state and political organizations trying to influence the election by implicitly trashing the democrats, there are farms of memers from conservative countries and organizations trying to imply that the democrats are the authoritarian party to rattle the cages of voters.

      it happened in 2016 and 2020, and every American intelligence agency has been publicly cautioning voters for years that electoral manipulation through indirect methods like memes and social media posts are definitely being perpetrated by unfriendly countries and is only increasing.

      https://www.wired.com/story/russia-ira-propaganda-senate-report/

      It’s a pretty interesting story that not many people talk about, but a lot of political memes on the internet are supplied by foreign state actors willfully trying to influence American elections, and in the case of 2016, successfully affected the outcome of the American election for the conservatives according to intelligence agencies.

      • HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works
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        20 days ago

        Don’t see the lunk between this meme and the US election. I bet this is a widely shared understanding of the situation outside the US.

        • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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          19 days ago

          link:

          in 2016 and 2020, meme farms were established in Russia, China and Iran specifically to covertently attack the democratic party so that The conservatives in the US would seem more rational, because for an actors with intense to harm the US want the conservatives to gain power again.

          that is happening again.

          Even if OP here isn’t one of the Russian meme farmers themselves, their misunderstanding of the political conflict is undoubtedly influenced by the intentionally divisive and simplified memes flooded into American social media by bad actors.

          It’s a dead-end, lazy barely-a-thought meme and the fashionably cynical futility of American policy analysis should be confronted.

          • HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works
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            19 days ago

            I do not deny the very rearl, intense and dangerous activity of Russian and Chinese troll farms for Western democracies. But you cannot reduce the meme as an attack on Democrat’s policy: all US administrations after Clinton have had a one-sided approach of the conflict in Israel/Palestine. It is more visible now the IDF slaughters tens of thousands of civilians with US-supllied missiles, while keeping their own population protected under the US-supplied iron dome. One can only hope Trump loses and Harris manages to curb Netanyahu’s extremism.

        • killea@lemmy.world
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          20 days ago

          I’m gonna agree with varik here. I’ve noticed a deliberate contingent of “pro-Palestinian” who are clearly siphoning votes from Harris. They seem to be targeting naive leftists and Midwest Muslims, and they always intentionally obfuscate just how much more brutal and awful Trump would be.

        • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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          19 days ago

          you’re not “calling them out”, you’re upvoting a lazy, misguided meme without any context purely to get attention.

          “You guys are spamming the whole internet with your election bullcrap”

          proof?

          Just kidding, I know you don’t have any.

          I have zero political memes in my entire history.

          “You guys are a rogue country and I hope new york gets bombed someday.”

          your cowardly nature right here is proof of your insincerity and misunderstanding of how war works.

      • reesilva@bolha.forum
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        20 days ago

        Bro, u don’t need foreign authors to do that. The very same person that did and does that there, teach Bolsonaro and his MFs to do the same in Brazil. USA problem is not foreign authors, but inside job, even when them (Trump and his followers, backed by Steve Bannon and tons of money from people like Musk) hire external actors to do so.

        One of the biggest problems of USA lies in the fact that united stadians (sorry, I refuse to call them Americans and prefer to create a name) always think that their country is being attacked, harassed and assaulted by evil external actors that wants the end of USA when these actors are, mainly, internal. And most of the externals, also hired by internal actors.

        But, I admit that it is being nice to see the end of USA as an empire (even though they will die shooting and killing millions, like we are seeing in Ukraine, Gaza, Lebanon, Siria, Libia and many others)

      • sh_it_poster24@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
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        20 days ago

        This is not trashing democrats, and republicans would be worse. This is trashing all the ignorant peopel who don’t understand the difference.

            • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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              19 days ago

              you only feel like an idiot because you don’t know what you’re talking about, don’t beat yourself up about it.

                • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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                  19 days ago

                  yea, i get it, enjoy your pennies.

                  “You are surely innocent”

                  well yeah, I don’t even pay American taxes.

                  “You are not”

                  Yes I am, we just went over that.

                  “I wish you get drafted and sent to the middle east to get butchered like so many did.”

                  what are you- oh, butchered like the hundreds of thousands of Russian casualties so far.

                  i get it.

                  that would be terrible!

                  enjoy the 17 cents or whatever you’re making today.

    • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      20 days ago

      Lemmy is a decentralized platform created by and for communists. It’s political by default.

      • B312@lemmy.world
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        20 days ago

        It is not by and for communists. Just because the main dev of a project adheres to a certain ideology it doesn’t mean everyone adheres to that ideology. In fact the communist section of lemmy is pretty much defederated from the rest

        • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          20 days ago

          It was literally the purpose it was created but go off I guess, what’s a little revisionism.

          And by “the rest” you mean .world “preemptively defederating as a last resort”

          • B312@lemmy.world
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            19 days ago

            It doesn’t matter what it was created for, it matters what it is now. You can’t say that marxists are even close to being the majority of users.

            A huge portion of the community also blocks the two tankie instances on their own account, it’s just that world did it because it’s one of the bigger instances and wanted to keep a good image of the platform

      • B312@lemmy.world
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        19 days ago

        I don’t really browse political communities but I thought they would have a lower barrier of effort than meme communities.

        Nvm I just remembered I’m on shitpost. Fair enough ig

    • Fedizen@lemmy.world
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      19 days ago

      The state of the world and the koolaid man both like to recklessly crash through my walls and be like “OH no”

    • liquidparasyte@pawb.socialEnglish
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      20 days ago

      By default the open source/decentralized social media movement was galvanized by idealistic and political groups who were unsatisfied with corporate social media — mainly being the libertarian-flavored, pro-free speech free software types that flourished in the early software industry, the right wing activists that proliferated in the mid 00s/early 2010s, and left-wing factions of many types fighting capitalism.

      Lemmy in particular was started by developers in the communist space, and has since attracted other segments of the left and center to seed its culture.

      Many segments of popular communities here are liberal or even centrist now, but the background, core user base of Lemmy retains at least a socially progressive, anti-or-critical-capitalist lens, if not further left.

  • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    Am I missing something? Is this saying there is similarity between an innocent victim of a genocide with someone who is creating a new genocide on another group of people?

    • Maalus@lemmy.world
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      20 days ago

      The meme is being misused since the situation in the show is 180 degrees from its use in memes. In the show, Pam pranks a dude by giving him two identical pictures and then admits that it’s the same picture.

      In memes, people thought that Pam was the one that was given the assignment. So in this meme, Pam is US / US government. And to the US there is no difference between pictures when given the assignment of distinguishing between a victim of Holocaust and the current head of Israeli government that is actively comitting genocide.

    • Siegfried@lemmy.world
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      20 days ago

      I hope you are saying Anne was a war criminal cause accusing bibi would be a serious case of antisemitism, which is the highest crime of all.