• JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee
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    21 days ago

    Yes, those people are also victims of the society and government to which they belong. The harm they cause to themselves and others is saddening but caused by a larger problem.

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      21 days ago

      Thinking there is any excuse or justification for rape, murder and genocide IS the larger problem. People are accountable for their actions regardless of circumstances.

      No, you are not allowed to rape kids, kill them and then drag their bodies through cheering crowds because you feel oppressed. What is that even supposed to accomplish? Especially considering the eradication of the Israelian state and population is the stated goal?

      Israel essentially has the choice between fighting back or roll over and die. It’s ridiculous to believe Israel is at fault for this hatred, Jews have been hated and discriminated against in that region for far longer than the Israelian state existed.

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        21 days ago

        No, you are not allowed to rape kids, kill them and then drag their bodies through cheering crowds because you feel oppressed. What is that even supposed to accomplish? Especially considering the eradication of the Palestinian state and population is the stated goal?

        Palestine essentially has the choice between fighting back or roll over and die. It’s ridiculous to believe Palestine is at fault for this hatred, arabs have been hated and discriminated against in that region for far longer than the Israeli state existed.

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        21 days ago

        Zionism will fight to the end and take everyone with it because it’s a hateful ideology that refuses to compromise or make anything with its own hands. It’s colonialism.

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        21 days ago

        …far longer than the Israelian state existed.

        This opinion is only held by someone covering their eyes and ears to reality and im quite tired of hearing it.

        Israel exists only because a foreign country unilaterally displaced over 300k people and sparked an immediate regional war. We the us, in our hubris started and perpetuate this atrocity. Israel (for god’s sake it’s a fucking theocratic-esque ethno-state by the way) continues to exist only because it is useful for US to have influence in that region. If israel had been placed against our wills in say… Alabama, you’d be fighting along side of me as a patriot.

        Speaking of your quoted text, Joe Biden has been around longer than the rogue state of Israel has. I hope it lasts as long as he does too.

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      21 days ago

      It’s woven into their ideologies and everyday lives. Has been that way from day one. Young minds don’t stand a chance.