• nnullzz@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    Not defending Israel here in the least bit, but wouldn’t 18 year old soldiers still count as “teenage”? Just weird that they would use “teenage victims” instead of “young soldiers” or something.

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      They are victims, of that drone strike if the information given is accurate, and also of a military that would recruit them and put them close to the front lines when they’re just teenagers. And it’s not only Israel who does that, but it doesn’t make it okay. Kids that age can’t make informed decisions about how to risk their lives. They didn’t have any political power in starting the war or continuing it.

      But don’t take my word for it. Take the word of the people who wrote that article. They obviously agree, or they would have written their headline differently.

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        I’m in the US and our oldest son wanted to enlist this year when he turned 18. Power to him for wanting to serve the country and help protect us, but he barely knows how to do basic adult shit. And not bc we don’t teach them, he just doesn’t get it sometimes or care enough to do things right. And he wanted to throw himself on the frontlines. We were terrified for him. Luckily he changed his mind.

        Enlistment should begin at 21.

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        21 days ago

        TheGuardian had my favorite headline yesterday. A masterclass in doublespeak compressed to one sentence.

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    21 days ago

    Child soldiers that are brainwashed into thinking it’s okay to rape, pillage, and murder entire unarmed families, and then make videos for the internet where they defile their homes while singing songs about genocide.

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      21 days ago

      Yes, those people are also victims of the society and government to which they belong. The harm they cause to themselves and others is saddening but caused by a larger problem.

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        It’s woven into their ideologies and everyday lives. Has been that way from day one. Young minds don’t stand a chance.

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        Thinking there is any excuse or justification for rape, murder and genocide IS the larger problem. People are accountable for their actions regardless of circumstances.

        No, you are not allowed to rape kids, kill them and then drag their bodies through cheering crowds because you feel oppressed. What is that even supposed to accomplish? Especially considering the eradication of the Israelian state and population is the stated goal?

        Israel essentially has the choice between fighting back or roll over and die. It’s ridiculous to believe Israel is at fault for this hatred, Jews have been hated and discriminated against in that region for far longer than the Israelian state existed.

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          Zionism will fight to the end and take everyone with it because it’s a hateful ideology that refuses to compromise or make anything with its own hands. It’s colonialism.

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          No, you are not allowed to rape kids, kill them and then drag their bodies through cheering crowds because you feel oppressed. What is that even supposed to accomplish? Especially considering the eradication of the Palestinian state and population is the stated goal?

          Palestine essentially has the choice between fighting back or roll over and die. It’s ridiculous to believe Palestine is at fault for this hatred, arabs have been hated and discriminated against in that region for far longer than the Israeli state existed.

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          …far longer than the Israelian state existed.

          This opinion is only held by someone covering their eyes and ears to reality and im quite tired of hearing it.

          Israel exists only because a foreign country unilaterally displaced over 300k people and sparked an immediate regional war. We the us, in our hubris started and perpetuate this atrocity. Israel (for god’s sake it’s a fucking theocratic-esque ethno-state by the way) continues to exist only because it is useful for US to have influence in that region. If israel had been placed against our wills in say… Alabama, you’d be fighting along side of me as a patriot.

          Speaking of your quoted text, Joe Biden has been around longer than the rogue state of Israel has. I hope it lasts as long as he does too.