I’ve been teaching for 18 years. Every year before this one, things have gone relatively well. They talk a little, I quiet them down, we have a lesson, time is embedded in it for group work, and I tell them I’d like 85% of their conversation to be about the assignment. Most kids are decent. A few are superb. Some do jack shit and I struggle all year to get them to do anything. And about 5% of the students cause problems and make it harder for their classmates to learn, but they get dealt with.
Not this year. Four classes of 30+, and in all six classes a full third of the 8th grade students can’t see beyond two seconds from now. My shit is getting stolen, students leave their binder in their locker when they’re supposed to bring it to every single class in the building, and their entire purpose in any given moment is to say/do/destroy whatever they can to create laughs/anger/shock in someone else, who could as easily be right in front of them as they could be on the opposite end of the room. A third. Of each class. And it is relentless. Every teacher that shares these kids is having the exact same issues across the board. So we are presenting a united front and shutting it the fuck down.
Oof, that sounds rough. Are these the kids got hit hardest by the pandemic lockdowns? If so, maybe there’s a glimmer of hope that this is an aberration and next year will be a bit more 'normal ', if you can get through this year with your sanity intact.
It’s got to be rough on the kids too, the ones who aren’t causing trouble must still be struggling to deal with itm and the ones who are just sound desperate.
I enjoy teaching, or at least, transferring knowledge and experience, I’ll do it to pretty much anyone who sits still long enough, and I’ve been told I’m good at it, but you couldn’t pay me enough to teach a classroom full of kids all day, so you have my respect for that.
Good luck, and I hope things get better for the kids and teachers everywhere.
Are these the kids got hit hardest by the pandemic lockdowns?
The prevalent theory among my colleagues is that it was something about the age these students were during virtual learning (ages 9-11) that may have been the deciding factor in why they are comparably so much worse behaved that any class of students before or after them, but I couldn’t say.
I enjoy teaching, or at least, transferring knowledge and experience, I’ll do it to pretty much anyone who sits still long enough,
Samesies. I love teaching, but sometimes I really dislike “being a teacher” because of the lack of support or any attempt at understanding what actually goes on inside the classroom day-to-day by admins, parents, or community members. I am good with mentoring a couple students each year and going them overcome their issues. But I don’t have the capacity to do it for all 50+ kids who are making it impossible for the other 120 to learn.
Good luck, and I hope things get better for the kids and teachers everywhere.
It sounds like a combination of Covid years being bad for student development combined with school districts on shoestring budgets not having enough teachers on hand done they can’t get enough teachers to take a vow of poverty.
Personally I think it’s good. Students that don’t respect the teacher shouldnt even be there. If it was up to me, I would send them home if they don’t behave. But that’s not something you can do as a teacher I guess.
That sounds a lot like the k-8 class I grew up with from 1999 to 2007. We were rowdy, constantly got in trouble, constantly interrupting class. We got in trouble so often that for our 8th grade year we lost both our New York and Washington DC field trips. Ours is the only class that either of those trips were taken away. Substitute teachers always reported back horror stories of what we did while the teacher was away. Desks and seat assignments were constantly moved around to separate the disruptive problem groups to little success.
I’ve been teaching for 18 years. Every year before this one, things have gone relatively well. They talk a little, I quiet them down, we have a lesson, time is embedded in it for group work, and I tell them I’d like 85% of their conversation to be about the assignment. Most kids are decent. A few are superb. Some do jack shit and I struggle all year to get them to do anything. And about 5% of the students cause problems and make it harder for their classmates to learn, but they get dealt with.
Not this year. Four classes of 30+, and in all six classes a full third of the 8th grade students can’t see beyond two seconds from now. My shit is getting stolen, students leave their binder in their locker when they’re supposed to bring it to every single class in the building, and their entire purpose in any given moment is to say/do/destroy whatever they can to create laughs/anger/shock in someone else, who could as easily be right in front of them as they could be on the opposite end of the room. A third. Of each class. And it is relentless. Every teacher that shares these kids is having the exact same issues across the board. So we are presenting a united front and shutting it the fuck down.
Oof, that sounds rough. Are these the kids got hit hardest by the pandemic lockdowns? If so, maybe there’s a glimmer of hope that this is an aberration and next year will be a bit more 'normal ', if you can get through this year with your sanity intact. It’s got to be rough on the kids too, the ones who aren’t causing trouble must still be struggling to deal with itm and the ones who are just sound desperate.
I enjoy teaching, or at least, transferring knowledge and experience, I’ll do it to pretty much anyone who sits still long enough, and I’ve been told I’m good at it, but you couldn’t pay me enough to teach a classroom full of kids all day, so you have my respect for that.
Good luck, and I hope things get better for the kids and teachers everywhere.
The prevalent theory among my colleagues is that it was something about the age these students were during virtual learning (ages 9-11) that may have been the deciding factor in why they are comparably so much worse behaved that any class of students before or after them, but I couldn’t say.
Samesies. I love teaching, but sometimes I really dislike “being a teacher” because of the lack of support or any attempt at understanding what actually goes on inside the classroom day-to-day by admins, parents, or community members. I am good with mentoring a couple students each year and going them overcome their issues. But I don’t have the capacity to do it for all 50+ kids who are making it impossible for the other 120 to learn.
Thanks, preesh.
whatever happened to failing grades and detention?
or just bring back the dunce cap and the ruler and make em stare at the corner
It sounds like a combination of Covid years being bad for student development combined with school districts on shoestring budgets not having enough teachers on hand done they can’t get enough teachers to take a vow of poverty.
Personally I think it’s good. Students that don’t respect the teacher shouldnt even be there. If it was up to me, I would send them home if they don’t behave. But that’s not something you can do as a teacher I guess.
That sounds a lot like the k-8 class I grew up with from 1999 to 2007. We were rowdy, constantly got in trouble, constantly interrupting class. We got in trouble so often that for our 8th grade year we lost both our New York and Washington DC field trips. Ours is the only class that either of those trips were taken away. Substitute teachers always reported back horror stories of what we did while the teacher was away. Desks and seat assignments were constantly moved around to separate the disruptive problem groups to little success.