Adblock plus takes money to whitelist ads, do not give them single cent.
Sure, but for now you can still go through the settings and disable that whitelist
Or you can use a better ad block plugin
Or a pi-hole
Sure, but for now you can still go through the settings and disable that whitelist
ok, i honestly had no idea, i am just happy with ubo.
That is true and false. Adblock plus takes money for the acceptable afs program, yes. But there are clear guidelines about the ads. Containing criteria for privacy, size in relation to content and more.
I work in IT for 20 years now. Half this time my salary was paid for by ads:
My company hosted big german news outlets. All money they made online was from ads.
More adblockers meant less income so their required more ads just to come out without losing money.
ABP tried to break this cycle.
Now we are having paywals, and paywal breakers. And at this point this is outright stealing.
If adblockers would allow ads that adhere to the acceptable ads criteria, the world would be a better place. Less paywals, less ads and maybe some companies would pay their employees a little bit more.
All Ads Are Bastards.
AdBlock Plus takes money to whitelist ads.
This is true and false, for in fact, you see, AdBlock Plus takes money to whitelist ads.
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If adblockers would allow ads that adhere to the acceptable ads criteria, the world would be a better place. Less paywals, less ads and maybe some companies would pay their employees a little bit more.
I disagree. The system may have began in earnest goodwill, but financial incentive inevitably erodes goodwill. ABP becomes incentivized to adapt its definition of “acceptable” based on potential revenues they stand to gain from increasingly persuasive advertisers. Your vision of a better world under this system is at best temporary.
The alternative model, simply paying for goods and services directly, is a far more robust solution.
Even if you go with the “acceptable” part of that whole thing it’s still shady.
It’s one thing to boycott ads as an individual user (and to “steal” ad revenue from websites) but a completely different thing if you run an external service that steals (without quotation marks) from the revenue pool.
Using proper ad-blockers that actually let you block ads and not just some that they don’t get paid to show, is no more stealing than me walking away from the TV during commercials (if I still had flow TV). It’s just more convenient for me. If I can not use a site without allowing their shitty ads, they can go fuck themselves, I will go somewhere else.
I’d also happily pay for content, if the prices they charged were reasonable. But greed always gets In the way and subscriptions just go up-up-up, manipulative pricing strategies that change the prices according to number of views etc. just to keep that infinite growth going. Companies that incorporate those kind of things can go to hell.
I was talking about paywall removers not adblockers in that sentence
I added to my comment, maybe after you replied.
Like I mentioned in the edit, I don’t mind paying for content. But the way they manage the pricing makes me defy them out of spite. When they want to manipulate the pricing like that, they themselves started the immoral behaviour. When your opponent fights dirty, you level the playing field by circumventing their efforts.
You delivered some good points. I also work with publishers.
Ad blockers have had an impact, but I think the bigger driver is that premium demand has migrated spending to connected TV (CTV, showing ads on an Internet connected large screen). Publishers just don’t get the rates they used to for web and mobile inventory, even if they’re doing everything right.
I think when another trendy channel like AI ads straight to your brain or whatever pops up we will see another migration.
This has to be satire. Greed is not compatible with moderation.
I would hardly call any of this steeling, The authors of the articles and the people needed to maintain the website are not being given the full value of there labor, they are already being stollen from, I do not care if the big company cannot make as much money, there profit is the theft of employee wages
I am with you regarding the big ones. But what about smaller media outlets and journalists to try to make a living on their own ? We need them. More then the big ones. Then the solution is to just ignore all the big ones and read the smaller ones. With ads or paying for it.
That is true and false. Adblock plus takes money
so, it is true then.
Out of curiosity, what was your CEO and other executives making while claiming “it’s cause ad blockers”?
We didn’t care. We were the hosting provider nor the news outlets. But we had close contact to our customers. And a lot of the smaller customers had a hard time to even survive. The primary source of income was print until paywals came around. Some customers never had print and had to close down with the surge of ad blockers
-Grayjay/libretube/fluxtube/pipepipe/skytube -Piped (web) -Ytdlnis -Ytdlp -Brave -Firefox + ublock -Spotube/simp/bloomee
Stop using chrome already.
Do any YouTube blockers work anymore? The last two I was using just stopped working a few weeks back
Stop using Chrome
Firefox + uBlock Origin are still fine
For some reason I have ublock and have it set to on when I’m on YouTube, but it doesn’t do anything. I still get ads.
Clear the uBlock cache and refresh the filters
That was intentional by google. Stop fucking using Chrome
I don’t. Stopped working on my tv, my PC Firefox, mobile everything.
Firefox + uBlock. Hasn’t failed me once, not even when they recently tried to push back against adblockers.
Revanced on mobile as well.
uBlock Origin on PC and NewPipe on android have been working fine for me
Recently? I deleted new pipe off my phone like a week or two ago cause it wasn’t working
Brave browser
I use SmartTube on my android tv sticks, no problem. I do wish autoplay had better intelligence though.
I’d happily pay for YouTube if they didn’t want such a ridiculous price for it.
I’d happily pay for Youtube if they stopped tracking me
Family plan is around 5 bucks per person. Even the individual plan is cheaper than one trip to the movies.
Yep, that sounds similar to Europe. A movie ticket is easily 15 euros, plus transport, pop corn, etc.
That depends on how many people are in the family and how many people are paying their fair share. Odds are that the children won’t pay because, well, they’re children. Teenagers might pay their way depending on if they have a job or not. And many households only have one primary source of income (with maybe a side job providing just a little extra). Which means most people would probably be footing the bill themselves for the whole family.
When you go to the Zoo, do the kids pay for themselves? The price per person is that, price per person, not who pays.
It used to be like 3€ without music bundled into it. I don’t want Music. Give me that plan back.
Get F-Droid, and go use NewPipe. Export your subscriptions from YouTube and load them into NewPipe. Problem solved.
It’s too bad that there’s no iOS equivalent. :'(
There’s Yattee. Open Source and works quite well.
Thank you! I’m switching to iPhone today whenever It gets here, and the loss of newpipe is one thing I’ve been really worried about. I’ll check out the app you recommended after I’m done setting up my new phone
This is an ad in itself. Hilarious.
Removed by mod
Is it tho if it’s pounting out ABP isn’t any good?
There is no such thing as bad publicity.
Ublock origin FTW
The dad is correct here; AdBlock Plus is corporatized, and uBlock Origin is the better option hands-down in every capacity.
Yes but you cannot donate to uBlock, so he is doing the best he can
Correct, but you should donate to the list maintainers, not the enemy.
I really don’t agree with this. AdBlock Plus is a technically inferior, directly competing standard that sucks up to advertisers by doing something only marginally less scummy than taking bribes to look the other way. These two extensions are both licensed under the GPLv3, but I seriously doubt Gorhill, the developer of uBlock Origin, sees much if any benefit from ABP’s source code. uBO uses ABP’s filter list syntax, but if ABP ceased to exist, the lists would work just the same.
If ABP had their way, they would monopolize adblocking as effectively a protection racket, and being given funding to create that sort of ecosystem is toxic to an open Internet. Giving ABP any money is worse than losing it down a sewer grate. uBO at this point in time should be the only adblocking extension anyone is using, because it’s the one that’s actually working toward a better Internet.
Look man he is a kid he is trying to suport adblocking, I do not expect him to try to find a way to anonomusly send it to uBO, he will search adblock and pay it… not saying its a good choice, I am saying its a choice I would expect a child who is trying there best to make
I don’t blame Billy for being naive. I am not saying Billy should instead track down Raymond Gorhill and mail them cash.
Nonetheless, what Billy has done – in good faith and thinking he was helping – is make the Internet a very slightly worse place and spent money to do so.
I remember when ABP started whitelisting ads as part of some twisted business model. I switched to uBlock so fast and haven’t looked back.
THEY FUCKING WHAT.
I can die now. I’ve seen peak hypocrisy.
They did. If I remember right it actually started with them kissing the Google ring first.
“p-please, shit in my mouth, daddy g” -abp
It used to be the defacto extension, everyone used it. I remember when the dev sold out. I get it, money can be exchanged for goods and services, but now they can’t show their face in many places as they are ‘the lowlife piece of shit who sold out abp’ and that’s basically a death sentence in tech hub places.
Yes, but sleep soundly at night on a big pile of money.
Dad is supporting Youtube Premium though, even more corporatized
And shares revenue with content creators.
Does any ad blocker actually block YouTube ads? Origin doesn’t appear to be effective for me. Any advice is appreciated.
Unfortunately security at work just shut down all use of Firefox, and I was using YouTube enhancer. Forced to using Edge now.
Non work FF4lyfe and no issue, but I’ve always had to use more than just ublock origin.
Which browser are you using? Firefox with ublock origin blocks every ad for me. I havent seen one on youtube in years.
“but first, a word from our sponsor”
(get SponsorBlock too)
If u are using chrome, then that is the issue.
Origin blocks ads for me on FF. Depending on the video you’re watching, know that YouTube is now hard coding ads into its video which nothing so far can block (as far as i know)
uBO effectively blocks every ad that can be blocked. Youtube has started to insert the ads directly into the video stream and that’s not practically blockable.
Combining multiple ad blockers can interfere with ad blocking, though. Try creating a new, temporary profile with default settings and no addons, installing uBO, and see if it’s still broken.
it’s still practical to block them, twitch has adblockers and uses the same mechanics, if there’s a client rendered element(such as a pop up box that can be clicked) it’s detectable and therefor skippable or at the very least hidable.
if there’s a client rendered element(such as a pop up box that can be clicked) it’s detectable
Neat, I’d never thought of that part. Usually when this topic is brought up, people talk about downloading the video multiple times and then diffing them to find the (presumably changing) commercials, but that’s a much simpler way. And it’s not as if they’d want an ad you can’t click on, so there’s no good countermeasure to it.
I know youtube has been selective about rollouts, but I use uBlock, sponsor block, and ABP in chrome and have had zero issues.
Depends on the type of ad. The new ones that YouTube injects into the video stream would not be blockable. Everything else is blocked just fine.
What is it about the line " Billy, Noo!" that always kills me?! Its so stupid but it fills me with joy when I hear it or read it.
What about uBlock Origin, young Billy???
That stuborn saint refuses to take my money.
He just continues to make uBlock out of pure spite.
Absolute madlad, the uBlock Origin creator.
uBlock Origin is so nice they discourage donations in favor of filter maintainers.
Got adblock and yt premium, that way the creators I watch still benefit
Also especially if you get a family plan and split the cost it’s really not too bad, £5 a month seems pretty reasonable to me for yt plus music
But if you pay for YouTube premium you won’t have ads… for the first couple of years until they corner the market, and change the terms of services several times to maximize profits. uBlock and donating to open source FTW. shout out to yt-dlp
Also ad lock blocks ads on all of the platforms you use. YouTube plus just removed them from YouTube… I ain’t paying 20 different places for ad free use when they charge like $15+ each, maybe if it were $1 each for nah they are all greedy.
+1 for ytdlp
Jeez I’m old enough to remember paying to go to the theater so I could watch a movie without commercials
oof.
This is exactly it.
Cable TV was originally meant to be TV with no ads, see where that has come.
Streaming services were meant to be on demand shows/movies with no ads, see where we are now.
YouTube premium will enshittify the exact same way. How do I know this? They already won’t listen to paying customers and content creators who bring customer to the site. They do customer unfriendly moves like removing dislikes to make a quick buck from big corporations. They will make it shittier given the chance.
Ironically this Meme is an AdBlock Plus advertisement.
Yes Billy, yes!
Ironically this Meme is an AdBlock Plus advertisement.
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uMatrix and uBlock origin ::: spoiler
How do you support uOrigin? I can’t even find the donation page
You don’t. They do not accept donations, and instead recommend donating to blocklist authors.
uMatrix
I used uBlock origin and have for years but I’ve never heard of uMatrix. I see from the description kind of what it does, but what’s the benefit here?
Based on the description, it looks like it’s designed to be able to block or allow 3rd party stuff on webpages. For example, it looks like, if you wanted to, you could block Twitter embeds from loading in a given news article. I imagine it can also block hidden 3rd party stuff, too, the kind that you only notice if you look at the network tab in the browser’s console.
I’d watch this ad all day, every day
