• ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com
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    8 months ago

    “How dare the left accuse us of fascism, they’re the fascists! Now c’mon everyone, let’s conspire to fake vote totals so we can assert authority we didn’t earn.”

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    8 months ago

    Eww far right social media filled with racism,anti sentiment,islamphobia etc etc

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    Gasp, you all surely don’t believe that conservatives would ever engage in voter manipulation tactics… r-r-right!?

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        This must be why Trump said they people only need to vote one more time, and then they’ll never need to do so ever again.

        One election, to rule them all… and in the darkness bind them

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    There absolutely no way this isn’t an ad for upvote buying services lol this is so insane and transparent and the worst part is it’ll work

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      Have to respect someone getting in on grifting conservatives without even endorsing their views in the process.

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        Honestly, there’s and endless sea of grift attempts going on at all times. You don’t think people selling fake gold Trump coins, etc give one damn about his politics, do you? They’re just trying to wring every penny out of the die hards

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          I have to respect the mall t-shirt kiosks selling poorly made trump merch right next to the equally poorly made Kamala merch. At least they’re just there for the hustle

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          Last presidential election here in Brazil there were some some traffic light salesman selling towels with the presidential candidates. And they walked around with a score board showing which one had sold more. And they sold a lot more because people didn’t want to see their beloved candidate on the losing side.

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            Right? I was going to sell 5g blockers online when the pandemic started, but I have some semblance of a conscience… Also my wife threatened to leave me if I did.

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        In this case they do very much help those views though. Either they create the appearance of public appeal, which draws more people to these views, or they manage to disrupt spaces that formerly fostered a different political culture.

        If we look at Twitter we see the second aspect particularly strongly.

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      Thats exactly what I believe. I know there is no limits to stupidity, but don’t you use bots to make it seem legit? Who would go around saying, “hey guys we’re losing. We should use BOTS. We should buy BOTS ACCOUNT AND UPVOTES from BOTSFORSALE.org

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      I mean, it’s an ad but it’s also thought-provoking and interesting. Before now we all knew what was happening we just didn’t know the details also kind of interesting to see proof it’s a conversation starter. I think I would have preferred it if the author would have redacted the URL though.

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    Counter argument: Reddit is predominately American. These upvote sites use low cost foreign slave labor to generate their output. Buying upvotes is outsourcing jobs. Keep Reddit American. Don’t buy upvotes!

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    “Our opinions are wildly unpopular to the point where even if a bunch of us showed up we’d struggle to make a difference so we’re gunna need to buy upvotes!”

    Like…c’mon.

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      The right may not have good ideas, organizational skills, charm, ethics, understanding of economics, history, or politics, or strength in numbers, but they do have the one thing more important than all of these.

      Money!

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        I’d argue they do have organizational skills and and strength in numbers. Don’t underestimate that.

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          Eric Trump says “what?!”

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          And this after his father would have made 8 times more money by simply leaving it in the bank than all of his variety of hotel and Sharper Image steak sales businesses - he’s literally the only one I’ve ever heard of who managed to lose money running a casino!

          “The system” is what makes wealth, not individual people these days. Obviously not solely, but the above example shows how it is the primary determination factor.

  • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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    “It is unambiguous clear that our message is toxic and the majority of people reject our ideology and us with it. Therefore, the most logical solution is to create an artificial narrative via manipulation and vote-buying that makes it appear that people like us.” -these people probably

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        It also worked with Reddit. The Palestine discourse there is utterly repulsive and gleefully genocidal.

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            worldnews is absolutely surreal and awful. Country specific subreddits are also getting worse and worse.

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              Holy shit you’re not wrong. I just browsed the top of the week on World News for a good twenty minutes and there wasn’t a single post about the thousands of civilians that have been killed. I didn’t see a single pro Palestine post and anybody talking about the literal war crimes being committed over there we’re just downvoted. I think I agree with your word choice of “surreal.” It feels like straight up propaganda and they are all falling for it. Every post about Israel was just saying something about how they’re taking out the terrorists.

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              It’s hilariously ironic that I got banned from worldnews four years ago for criticizing the Saudi regime and how they use millennia-old scripture as justification to treat women horribly. Apparently that’s ‘bigotry.’

              Everything I hear about the toxicity of worldnews these days is baffling.

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                Well, Saudi Arabia is an ally in all but name to Israel. Also both countries have excellent ties to large swaths of US politics.

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      Or… I run a reddit botnet, and Christmas is coming up. What’s the easiest group of rubes to fleece?

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        Depends on ISP.

        If IPv4 ban, it is indeed 100% ineffective. Nearly all ISPs either CGNAT or rotate addresses. If IPv6, the ISP just forwards a 64 bit block and leaves it at that. You must call and request a new IP block. In which case you’ll be told yes or no. If yes, it’s either free or paid.

        I know with ATT Fiber, they don’t offer address changes unless there is some security or service interruption reason. You have to unplug the modem for 30+ days so the lease expires if you don’t want to do rounds with support. My IPv4 address has changed once, but my IPv6 address block has never changed.

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          With my “new” ISP, I gave up running my DDNS updater on my home server. It’s been years and the IPv4 address still hasn’t changed…

  • merthyr1831@lemmy.ml
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    buying a bunch of upvotes on a website dominated by bot accounts is a very cost effective way to run an AstroTurf campaign

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      “I thought trump was a terrible person, but the updoots be changed my mind”

      Yeah sure. I mean there’s probably at least one or two feeble minded redditors like that but… Not a bunch. Especially if they’re confining themselves to right leaning subs.

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    So, putting aside the questionable morals of this person. I’m not sure alt right reddit threads are the election swing spot they seem to think.

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    cause everyone knows if conservative replies get upvoted enough people who hate Trump will have a sudden change of heart. Is this guy in the upvote for money business or what?

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    I remember, back in 2016, when the /r/The_Donald website just used a bunch of bots and other fake accounts to juice their content to the front page week after week.

    And then the Mods tweaked the algorithm so you wouldn’t have a wall of Trump memes on the front page every day. /r/The_Donald folks spilled into other sites and started repeating the strategy, so Mods had to tweak the algorithm again. And there was this back and forth that dragged all the way into the general election, at which point the Admins finally decided to ban the sub. But they also had to ban a slew of leftist subs, to make things fair.

    And now we have Hexbear, a site composed of purged Reddit-fuges. But Reddit is still full of Trumpies, for some curious reason.

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      And there was this back and forth that dragged all the way into the general election, at which point the Admins finally decided to ban the sub.

      My recollection is that they didn’t ban the sub until after the election, like a year into his presidency, shortly after the Charlottesville protest. I might be wrong though, I wasn’t really paying all that much attention to them.