• ButtBidet [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        In communist North Korea, over a million died from COVID, 45,000 die a year from lack of health insurance, and 200,000 die annually from poverty.

      • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.ee
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        North Korea has the world’s worst human rights, so when they made it sound like only one country had this issue, that was my guess. I’m in North America and never experienced what is described. Unless I’m wrong to have even the amount of faith required to believe there are no North Korea denialists here.

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            When I say that, I’m going by every regular source that ever existed, plus satellite images, its near-impossible standards for leaving or entering, its lack of internet access (who here has seen anyone who is actually from North Korea), and the fact that the average North Korean adult is only five feet tall, with height being an indicator of health (the taller the healthier). What do you weigh against it that inspires you to posit it’s all just propaganda and hearsay? Other hearsay (as opposed to a conflict within the narrative you oppose)?

            • booty [he/him]@hexbear.net
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              I say that, I’m going by every regular source that ever existed

              “regular source” citations-needed

              its near-impossible standards for leaving or entering

              did you know these are imposed on them externally? their policy is that they love tourists. here’s a video of a couple of australian tourists enjoying themselves there. the reason americans can’t go there is because the US forbids it.

              its lack of internet access (who here has seen anyone who is actually from North Korea),

              it’s a country under brutal siege for its entire history. yes, they’re poor. whose fault is that?

              • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.ee
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                Regular sources as in MSNBC, CNN, NPR, Wikipedia, etc. sources that are the most established, enough that they’re among the top 500 websites and that they show up on the first page of a Google search. Not to mention a random source is going to have random origins, trust in a source has to be earned and even with trusted sources you must compare and contrast them sometimes.

                The restrictions for leaving and entering have not been imposed on them externally, this attitude of Korea predates even the Roman empire so external factors wouldn’t have been possible as a cause, even though it’s undeniable there are nations that have restricted anyone from going there. Japan used to be the same way at different points in history, though for the time being they’re open to everyone.

                • booty [he/him]@hexbear.net
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                  sources
                  Wikipedia

                  michael-laugh

                  The restrictions for leaving and entering have not been imposed on them externally, this attitude of Korea predates even the Roman empire so external factors wouldn’t have been possible as a cause

                  jesse-wtf

                  come back when you can form a coherent thought

                  • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.ee
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                    In what way is it not coherent? Am I supposed to communicate almost wholly in pictures like you’re doing instead of links (it should be noted your pictures appear as transparent blocks either due to the defederstion settings or a glitch thereof).

                    Apologies if my semantics/grammar are too loose, as English is not my first language (it’s always hard translating Asiatic languages into English), though an online grammar checker said it was fine.

        • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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          According to who?

          Could it be, the United States? The most vicious and bloody empire the world has ever known?

          That aside (like, wow, holy fuck)

          If you could not recognize the earlier comments as an indication of western capitalism, you are rich or otherwise so privileged you cannot comprehend the struggles of the average person

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          North Korea was shut down anyway, it took a long time for them to have their first covid outbreak and I think when it finally did happen they did shut down.

          Also, I am glad you have come out so strongly in favor of the PRC approach, or so I must convlude.

          • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.ee
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            Being so close to China, North Korea couldn’t be in a position to escape being one of the first to suffer. Kim Jong-un spent the first part of it saying it didn’t exist. What’s worse is health in North Korea is poor, so there were more casualties. Any true response was too late.

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              You’re gonna need a better source than Wikipedia, which has a ridiculous level of slant against the DPRK (look up “Propaganda village” if you need convincing)

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                Wikipedia, the neutral website that also somehow happened to protest with a Reddit-style blackout when Donald Trump tried passing those internet bills, has a slant against the leader’s party? Alright, I’ll humor you.

                Also, completely unrelated question about that, how does one square someone having a slant against a political party, being on good terms with the political international that party is in, that party being in said political international, and that party being in a nation that works against anything about itself being publicized?

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                  I’m confused, can you elaborate? The DPRK is North Korea’s name for itself. WPK is its majority party. Are you claiming they’re part of a political international that wikipedia is on good terms with?