Are westerners being robbed of TP when we get the hollow rolls? Is communism the right path after all?

  • BambiDiego@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I don’t know…

    My list goes:

    1. Their toilet paper

    2. I might criticize Putin

    3. I might criticize the government

    • drathvedro@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      Well, I wouldn’t worry about 2 and 3 that much. It’s just that as a foreigner, especially if you are from the US, you will most definitely fall under the surveillance of FSB and the cops will look at you twice, but they’re not paid half-decent enough to actually give a shit and do their job properly. They might harass you here and there but if you don’t do anything stupid like protesting in red square or doing selfies in front of military bases, then they’ll have nothing against you. I imagine that’s not that much worse than living in the US under CIA’s umbrella and trigger happy cops. Other than that, it’s not nearly an extreme hellhole like NK, Afghanistan or Syria that people make it sound like. In fact, you can get by in Moscow or St. Petersburg without a guide or translator just fine. I’d rather advise to watch out for the tourist traps(the usual), and to avoid getting out of the city limits and into the suburbs because of the much increased crime levels.

      Ah, and put the fact that for every dollar you spend there, you put 20 cents straight into Putin’s pocket into that list…

      And also that you’d probably need a visa and it’s a hassle…

      And that you’d probably need a Russian friend to get you hooked up with the basics and avoid going through the bureaucracy - like with currency exchange, credit card, carrier plan, etc…

      Also that weather is rather harsh there…

      And also that it’s probably the dirtiest country on earth because city planners didn’t zone out lawns and parks properly therefore the mud gets spread absolutely everywhere…

      And that internet is half-broken, with half sites censored while the others block everyone from Russian IP’s because sanctions…

      And that Ukraine might not let you in afterwards…

      And that you’d for sure be questioned by your homecountry’s intelligence services…

      And that’s about all that I can think of.

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          2 months ago

          Well, it that case you’re referring to, the guy was actually snooping around which would fall into doing stupid things. But, just in case, just this once, here’s a free get out of jail free card: If you ever got caught just say that you’re an orthodox christian who came to Russia to enjoy based traditional culture in this bastion of anti-woke-ism and family values, and complain about some dumb shit like how western liberal agenda prevents you from hitting your wife or something. They can’t put you on TV while you are in prison, so they’ll have to let you go.

      • SSJMarx@lemm.ee
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        2 months ago

        it’s not nearly an extreme hellhole like NK

        North Korea is like ten times nicer than Russia, and definitely doesn’t belong on the same list as Taliban-controlled Afghanistan or still-a-warzone Syria, regardless of what you think of their government.

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            2 months ago

            unquestioningly believe Western propaganda about a country you’ve never been too

            it’s OTHER people who are naive

            'kay bud.

            • mods_mum@lemmy.today
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              2 months ago

              Yes, and the Earth is flat because you never went to space to confirm it’s a globe. Stupid people don’t know they’re stupid, it’s only a problem for everyone around them. Get help.

        • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          2 months ago

          girl, there are pictures of north koreans gathering GRASS because they don’t have food. And they will kill you or put you in a camp if you try to leave.

                • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  2 months ago

                  You know what? Fuck you. I’ve got better things to do than argue with tankies who imagine that authoritarian regimes are good just because they have red flags and claim to be communist. Do a service to humanity and yourself, and stay out of political discussion until you’ve aquired some education on these issues.

                  • SSJMarx@lemm.ee
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                    2 months ago

                    The first step is denial, shortly thereafter, anger. I know it’s hard to accept that you’ve been lied to your entire life about something, but doing genuine research on socialist governments is what set me free from my own liberalism and it could do the same for you.

                    I’m not talking about watching YouTube videos either, I’m taking about reading books. When you’re ready, I recommend starting with Blackshirts and Reds by Michael Parenti.