I get it, Biden is old and that’s a problem, but why doesn’t anyone seem to have a problem with the fact that Trump is almost the same age, has 34 felonies, raped at least 2 women, went to Epstein’s Island 11 times, sexualized his own daughter, stole classified documents, aligned himself with Xi and Putin, and can’t remember common names?
Is all of that really better than being 2½ years older than he is right now?
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His base are enthusiastically slobbering on his c**k, and most prominent politicians for the gqp seem to be lining up to holster it when his base are done. Not to mention the supreme
crunchwrapcourt are in love with him too.You can say cock on the Internet. No one will tell on you.
Cocky.
That’s it, I’m reporting you.
/s just in case
Send me to jail, offsir
COCK POLICE REPORTING FOR DUTY
True, and i have said all kinds of stuff in the internet but i dont want to too much. :p
Someone knows their cock rights.
Not really, I’m just cock sure.
Well better not get cocky about it, okay?
I dread the day when every thread on Lemmy defaults to a series of puns.
It does feel inevitable though, like some sort of internet entropy - eventually everything morphs into wordplay.
Cockserisation 👌👌👌
Jokes aside, I feel like this is also just a human thing or guy thing, a bunch of my guy friends or family members and I would do the same thing IRL
Why did you censor cock?
Trump’s the perfect figurehead for MAGA, why should he drop out?
I’m honestly pretty damn mad these people got perfect representation and we get stuck with neolibs who think “yeah yeah 40 years of the same hasn’t helped, but this time it will work!”
It’s because Democrats are not “we.” Both parties serve corporate interests.
Because we know he won’t. It’s pointless. They both need to just fucking die.
One party has principles, arguably too much in some sense.
The other either just voting for them because they love tradition so much they need to vote someone conservative, just want less taxes, or outright just evil and want to see the suffering of their fellow human beings if those happen to belong to the wrong group.
The principle of Genocide!
Oops moral high-ground gone again.
If Biden didn’t support Israel, he would have been smeared as an antisemite.
If Biden banned AIPAC (which he wont because he’s their primary recipient), he would not have been smeared as an antisemite.
Didn’t trump say he’d support israel completely?
Didn’t Biden say he supports israel unconditionally?
You always seem to avoid answering that question about Trump. You know he will be worse for Gaza yet you still seem to want to get him elected. Your real intentions are obvious; you don’t actually care about genocide.
Oops my bad your argument got fully dismantled and it’s proven Democrats don’t care about Genocide whatsoever.
Time for whataboutism!
Your real intentions are obvious; you don’t actually care about genocide.
What I care about isn’t the topic of discussion right now; you’re just trying to change the subject and avoiding the question.
Why are you pretending to care about genocide while actively campaigning for Trump? You know he admitted he would genocide harder and faster than Biden.
Only one of us is actively campaigning for genocide and it’s not me.
Netanyahu is the guy you should be asking about genocide
He said Biden loves giving him weapons to commit Genocide with.
Because he’d never do it anyway.
Because everyone in America who has fuck you money (everyone, even that one rich person you like who says shit about Trump) benefit if Trump gets elected.
Every news network owner, every sports star selling sneakers, every rock star who flys a private jet, every CEO that benefits from slave labor, every single parasite in the country. They all win huge if he gets elected.
Republicans are dismantling every roadblock to them having even more money.
People talk a big game but in the end we’re all greedy selfish short sighted fucks.
Not that the Democrats don’t fuck people over… but they’ll at least buy us dinner and maybe use some lube.
Don’t lump me in with greedy, selfish, short sighted fucks
I mean… I hate to say but I’m in there too. All the horror and trauma in the world makes me more that way every day
The American people called for him to dropout in 2020. He didn’t listen.
I didnt hear this. Maybe because I was too far away in europe, but it didnt seem, that the US had enough of this pussygrabber
Cool story.
He lost the election. Twice, actually. He’s never won the popular vote. He was only the president because of a broken system.
It just doesn’t really sound like "people called him to drop out, if almoat 50% of a country vote directly for him
Correction: 33% of the eligible voters.
66% of eligible voters voted in the 2020 election. Almost half of those voted for Trump. That’s 33% of eligible American voters.
Also, not all Americans are eligible to vote: felons in certain States, non-registered adults, children, etc.
I may just be being pedantic but it annoys me when I see people claim that half of America supports Trump/fascism when it’s just not true. The number is probably closer to 28% of Americans.
Yeah thats right, I didnt know the hard numbers thats on me.
But you need to really overthink you government system over there, because the guy 30% of you want destroys alot more than the trust in the US system.
The truth is that Trump has done more for conservative causes than any president prior. He installed the far right justices that have toppled Roe v Wade and affirmative action. He enacted things like the Muslim travel bans. In short, either they know he’s a scumbag and don’t care because he gets results, or they don’t believe their own lyin’ eyes because look at the results he produces. It’s all about the bottom line, and the ends justify the means.
For the voters, they really don’t believe it. I have conservative family members. Everything is always “Oh that’s just bullshit cooked up by the crooked Biden crime family” “Oh he didn’t mean the words he said very clearly, what he really meant was blah blah blah” followed ten seconds later by “I like him because he tells it like it is”
I just don’t get it. What makes this guy seemingly have a force field that can make people deny their own eyes and ears? Ignoring morals here, just thinking with those patterns would give me a cognitive dissonance aneurysm.
Because they hate who he hates. It’s that simple.
Closeted socialist here. I work in an extremely remote 24/7 process industry. They play Newsmax on the TVs in the chow hall and the only time they don’t is when they are replacing tvs. EVERYONE here is a degree of an alt righter. Some were at J6. Some have “Alex Jones was right” on their thermos’. I honestly believe some would kill me if I said I’ve read Marx. Not a single one of them could accurately define a political, economic, or social system without distracting with tropes, jingoistic rhetoric, or whataboutisms. Academic education is brainwashing. Christianity is a brand-name but you don’t have to read the Bible to be a christian. I made the mistake of expressing my disappointment of Trump because of what he has said about veterans. I was mocked for believing propaganda and over time I have become known as “the liberal”. That was all it took.
It’s frustrating, and I daily struggle with unchecked bigotry. But most people here do not wake up and choose to be racist or evil. They are doing what their wildly misled moral compass is telling them to be righteous. In their eyes, the pandering of the media that we see is absolute and total corruption to them. The media does lie, they have lied. Most of them couch it In ignorance and a whispered redaction, but that’s all it took. If they can lie about anything, then they must be lying about the unflattering things. There’s a bit of head-in-the-sand and delusion, but in their eyes the rape, the lawsuits, the theft from taxpayers, all of it is exactly what they would say if they were trying to make him look bad. That’s enough for them.
I honestly don’t blame them. They have fallen for grifts, lies, and propaganda that goes back at least 200 years.
at the end of the day they are idiots who fell for a grift as old as time.
I think this type of thinking is just as toxic as the thinking of the ones you so quickly call “idiots”. Not only do you fail to affect the situation in any positive way, but you harden the commitment of those that fell for the grift. Furthermore, you’re blatantly wrong. I’m sure there are things you are ignorant about. I’m positive I could find things that you think that I could demonstrate to be wildly inaccurate (mostly because I work in a very niche field that very few people do). None of them would make you an idiot. It’s okay to not know something. I’m not saying you should pander to anyone, but patience is a balm. Have some.
I feel ya. I didn’t talk to my mom for 2 months after she voted for Trump. This, after 4 years of me detailing his actions. Then I realized that it’s not their fault. They were never given the tools to navigate politics with education. The media lies to them. And their social circles repeat these lies. I was once just like them.
No doubt. Every friend I have is a trumper, but my best friend believes in the cabal. It’s tough and it’s heartbreaking. But I decided I’m just going to be an example of tolerance if nothing else.
Ah yes, tolerate their intolerance. Sounds like resignation to me.
Well, I don’t agree with you lol.
Seems I found the first thing you’re ignorant about. Perspective.
Critical Support for ZMonster. I also have to suffer ignorance with MAGA friends and family. Stay safe.
🙏 Good on you. Thanks and same to you. Luckily I used to be petulant and conservative so I can fit in when I need to. And my income is used by my partner to raise a child surrounded by love, understanding, and encouragement. So I feel like I’m filtering a portion of capitalism into raising a little communist. 🤣 It’s enough to keep me gritting through the xenophobia. 😬
We saw fireworks last night, and my daughter mentioned, “Is that why your property taxes are so high?” I laughed. Raising class conscious kids is fun . 🤩
I used to work at a place where an entire department was like that. They’d always have Jordan Peterson’s latest talk/show/podcast on in the background, MAGA merch, etc. They’d always have the facial expression of an inmate mugshot. And they’d always be super short with people. One of them made a point of saying the N word as much as they could.
Any time I had to interact with them I’d dread it. I can only imagine how terribly it would have gone if I had dared say anything political in earshot of them.
I said the same thing the other day. They don’t care. They just want results. It could be a ham sandwich that is starting to mold, and if the ham sandwich got the same results, there would be morons out there wearing ham sandwich hats.
Moldy ham sandwich '24
Has a nice ring to it.
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Most people who want him to drop out were never going to vote for him anyway.
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People (perhaps erroneously) perceive a chance of Biden actually doing it. Trump will never drop out as winning the presidency is his only shot at avoiding incarceration. He’ll probably run again in 2028 if he’s still around by then.
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Trump isn’t incumbent, meaning the GOP already had a full primary in the past year. They’ve already determined they don’t have a better alternative. Technically the Dems could have nominated someone other than Biden, but it was never a very likely possibility, so people aren’t as familiar with Democratic alternatives.
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Republicans either don’t believe any of the criticisms you made of Trump are true, are okay with them, still believe him to be the lesser of two evils, or some combination of these. This is largely due to right-wing propaganda e.g. Fox News, OAN, Info Wars, etc.
I’m no expert, these are just what I perceive to be happening. There’s probably other factors at play as well.
Edit: with the recent supreme court rulings, I’m guessing that he may be able to avoid jail even if he doesn’t win. I still don’t see any chance he’ll drop out.
Doesn’t the US have a two term (total) limit?
The constitution has decreed a two term limit, now let us see it enforce it. Pieces of paper may tell us how power is to be used, but in the end paper is paper, and power is power. A lot of Americans call on the power of the constitution while ignoring what it says.
SCOTUS ruling that amendments are more like suggestions
Most people who want him to drop out were never going to vote for him anyway.
Isn’t that sort of the problem? He’s way down in the polls because most people aren’t going to vote for him?
“Way down” based on what poll exactly? Both of the candidates are within 2%, certainly within margin of error.
Biden isn’t really any different % wise than a month ago. Trump is up 1% from a month ago. It’s not like it’s 60/40, it’s 42/39.8
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/
it’s 42/39.8
When less than 40% of the population wants to vote for you, that’s really bad
When less than 50% of the population wants to vote for you, it’s obvious you’re a garbage candidate.
Let’s get rid of the garbage candidates. Maybe there’s some adults under the age of 60 who aren’t total shitbags we can nominate.
Let’s get rid of the garbage candidates.
We had a primary for that. Unfortunately, only one serious Dem wanted to participate
Don’t get me started on the DNC and the fact that the voters really don’t have any real choice when it comes to who is elected.
I’ll never forgive them for screwing Bernie and handing the election to Trump by picking Hillary.
In fact, an incumbent president has never lost a primary in all of US History.
An incumbent President HAS placed third in a general election, though.
one of the many unique qualities of the cult 45 orange treason complex
He won his primaries.
He lost for reelection at his second term.
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…is this a joke?
No one is asking him to drop out because they aren’t afraid he’s going to lose. Simple as that.
Everyone with their panties in a twist right now could have done something about it during the primaries, but apparently protest votes about Israeli atrocities were the priority.
I did vote against him in the primary so I reserve the right to have my panties in a twist. My protest vote was for another candidate.
Because nobody expected him to do anything but lie through his teeth and shit his pants.
Check and check.
Lots of people have a problem with Trump. All the more reason to want someone opposing him who can beat him.
Who do you have in mind?
I don’t understand how this is supposed to be like some ‘gotcha’ question. Biden wasn’t a strong candidate in 2016 and lost to Hillary, who then lost to Trump. He wasn’t a strong candidate in 2020 which is why he barely squeaked by Trump to victory. He’s an even worse candidate in 2024 which is why Trump again has a shot at the presidency.
None of this is new information and the party has has nearly a decade to find a good candidate, yet they keep foisting some of the most unlikable people upon us election afrer election after election. It almost seems as if they’re doing it on purpose at this point. It’s not our fault that they’ve waited until the 11th hour to listen to the complaints and even acknowledge what we’ve all been saying for years. If Biden loses again, maybe stop looking at leftists to blame and start looking at the people in charge of this private organization deciding the fate of us all.
And yet, instead of answering a simple question, you’ve launched into a ‘if only we could change the past’ screed.
If there was a good answer to the question, people like you would just answer.
That isn’t a “if we could only change the past screed,” it’s calling the party leadership out for allowing things to get to this point. Where in a bus barreling toward the edge of a cliff while the driver has been ignoring our pleas to turn literally any other direction. Now we’re feet from the edge and you want to chastise us for not giving an exact direction earlier and happily plummet over the cliff with the driver.
That’s a long way to go to avoid a question, several paragraphs and you can’t even come up with one name.
Fine: Bernie. Happy now that you’ve got a name?
Fucking Internet lefties and demanding someone have all the answers or they’re not worth listening to
Fucking Internet lefties
Ah, there it is.
he is under no obligation to have a name at hand. that is what primaries are for. not having a name at hand doesn’t make biden best possible candidate, or even passable one.
Ah, there it is.
fuck off (you are on my blocklist now, don’t bother crafting elaborate answer designed to just piss me off)
Ignoring the rest of my comment to make me look like I’m demeaning all people on the left and not a specific subset of people who argue in bad faith like yourself?
Also a classic move by those same people!
Bernie? The only potential candidate even older than the two in contention?
Did I say he was perfect?
I simply provided a name when the bad faither’s pretended like that was the essential part of the argument at hand
Fuck Putin, and the tankie pussies who need a daddy to make them feel safe.
there is 333 milion people in the us. roughly 1/4 of them is of sufficient age and pro-democracy. one of them has to be able to put together coherent sentence.
Anybody but Biden. Kamala seems to be the expected replacement, that works. If not her, pretty much anyone else. Trump is a terrible candidate. While he has experience in show business, he’s way past his prime and pretty much any person should be able to beat him in a debate at this point.
I was actually recently thinking through people I’ve known and whether they could’ve done a better job debating Trump than Biden did. Generally any adult with a functioning mind would do better. Adults I’ve known with a HS education could’ve crushed Trump in that debate. I’m actually not sure if a homeless guy I once debated on the street regarding the meaning of pi would do better or worse than Biden, he seemed to be at about Trump’s level of sanity and if Trump won this last debate, well yeah even he’d do better than Biden. I can also think of some older teenage jocks I once knew, and while they were dumb as rocks their teenager swagger would’ve been more convincing than Biden’s rambling failed attempts to remember rote speeches.
If I try to think of who is actually about at Biden’s level, I think of myself at the age of 13, when I had a presentation in front of the class on an issue and for some reason I was struck by that early teenager nervousness, and haltingly tried to give a presentation as the class tried failingly to hide their laughter at how terribly it was going. It was probably the most embarrassing day of my life. That’s Biden’s level right there, because he sounded just like me back then giving that presentation. So any person in their late teens or older with a full grasp on sanity should be a much better candidate than Biden.
I call for him to drop out…of a boeing.
his jet is a boeing.
Maybe they have a door plug by his desk?
Might be more effective to make him stay in it, all the way down
We should try both… For science.
you mean to start the experiment by cutting him in half? i am in 😆
In the name of scientific accuracy, absolutely. Can’t go having inconclusive results, can we? Now I know one might be inclined to split him top and bottom but I posit we do left and right.
I have access to a cleaning/cutting/welding laser. I would like to do the vertical cut… that too is for science…
It’s not science unless you’re using fancy equipment during the practical experiment!
Have you seen the cost of those things? (Or what they do to rust?)
Most of the people who think Trump should drop out have been loudly opposing him for a long time. There isn’t just one single thing they object to, no great unifying theme they can point at and say “This is why he should not run,” because Everything about him is a reason why he should absolutely not be president. Even his Felony conviction is, while perhaps more than a drop, just a splash in the bucket of what should be utterly career ending circumstances.
The people who still support Trump don’t care about any of that. They’re not going to suddenly see one particular turn-off and decide that’s it, that’s why Trump should back out. They’re committed, in too deep, they can’t back down now because it would mean the Libs were actually right all along, and that presents, to them, an existential threat. And in the end, it’s the Republican way.
When Democrats, even popular ones, fuck up, other Democrats are much more likely to turn on them, to call for and get resignations. With Republicans, that’s almost unheard of. Republicans take Part Unity to an extreme, circling the wagons and assuming a full defensive position no matter how incredibly abhorrent the crime, no matter how blatant the evidence. Today we’re seeing the perfect example. Biden fucked up a debate, stumbling over his own words like an old man well past his prime, and the party is calling for him to step down. Trump has built his whole political career on stumbling over his own words, with the only cogent statements he manages being blatant lies, and his people would rather murder their neighbors than see him lose.
As much as I agree with everything you say, there is one more thing that needs to be said.
I started watching the debate fully aware of the fact that Trump was a POS. Trump was a POS in 2016, 2020, and 2024. On the other hand, I started watching the debate hoping to see president Biden could make Trump look even dumber. What I got was a very clearly senile guy that failed to make coherent sentences 10+ times in a 90 minute debate.
Trump was who he has always been during the debate. Biden was senile during the debate. At this point I’m not asking Biden to drop because I like Trump. That is wrong. I hate Trump. I’m asking Biden to drop because I know he won’t be able to beat Trump. On the other hand, he might have no problem beating medicare.
Oh look another super new account posting doom and gloom anti biden stuff. So weird.
On anything political, it’s about as bad as reddit. Possibly worse, I haven’t been on reddit for almost a year.
Ok, go ahead with Biden. I decided to take a break from politics. I’ll be sitting out this election.
Enjoy.
Thanks for enabling the facism!
I love when trolls post bullshit like this, it just fires up the democratic voters. Biden will win with more votes than the last time he beat that 34 time convicted felon, rapist, loser.
Anyone who disagrees with you isn’t a troll. Biden looked how he looked, and moderates/independents don’t have the same appetite for copium as you do.
Sounds like something a troll would say. Your post history is also matching what a troll/bot is. I agree 100% that just because someone disagrees with me they aren’t necessarily a bot, BUT, there’s a fuckton of bots/trolls out there now to do what they did in 2016.
Ok, go ahead with Biden. I decided to take a break from politics. I’ll be sitting out this election.
Enjoy.
You are absolutely right. I’m a Russian bot.
Lol, your account is six days old, nothing but troll posts. Bro, if you’re not a bot, you’re clearly not American, so you can just stfu K? Ty, go slob that putin knob boy.
Interesting way of saying “my human rights aren’t up for debate every 4 years.”
One thing I never understand is that all I ever hear about from Republicans is how old Biden is. While being true and not that I necessarily like Biden no one ever talks about how Trump is only three years younger. Biden has to answer for his age all the time but it’s not a thing Trump typically deals with
The age isn’t itself the problem. Cognitive decline is the problem. Biden is in rapid decline; Trump is still a ways off.
Trump has been rambling incoherently for years. Nothing he says makes any sense but he speaks confidently enough that the uneducated masses can’t even tell it’s nonsense.
Yeah.
This is from 2018 and not even his worst ones
Because if Biden can’t finish his term, a black woman will be president.
Because tRump doesnt stutter and plays golf like its his religion, which keeps him in decent shap for an old man, and now that he is on ozempic he is finally slimming down and looking healthy for the first time in 50 years.
Keeps him in decent shape!? Thanks for the laugh!
Different standards. Conservatives did this since the fall of kings, and doing this while want to reinstate them.
If the opponent messes up, they’re incompetent. If they themselves, it’s either someone else’s problem, just part of being human, or try to cover it up with the media until everyone forgets it.
