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    2 months ago

    Musk wanting it is more than enough reason for me to want to avoid it like the plague.

    Not that I would want any sort of brain implant anyway, but Musk being involved make it even less desirable than it already was.

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        2 months ago

        To be fair, I don’t think he was really involved in the development of that thing other than the original idea maybe. But, to be fair, that original idea was probably even worse than the finished product.

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      2 months ago

      After COVID we have to retire “avoid like the plague”. Too many people were happy to go to plague gatherings.

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        Too many people were happy to go to plague gatherings.

        I also avoid the types of people who would intentionally do something that idiotic.

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      2 months ago

      What is really scary to me is that many people dont see billionaires as they are, especially since they want to be rich themselves and likely look up to them like some twisted rolemodels.

      Ultimately, we are at the mercy of the masses and those masses are somewhat controlled by few people. If somehow people want to start using those implants, those who dont want to will be pressured to get one too.

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    2 months ago

    I really don’t understand why anyone is giving that goofball a platform.

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    Don’t really like the guy but the implants are for people with disabilities that stop/hinder their ability to interact with the digital world, which is certainly fun and exciting for those who want that ability. It’s a shame Musk is the figurehead for many of these projects because his brand is dirt to anyone that isn’t neck deep in blockchain, AGI, culture war, and general scam content.

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      They’ve existed for decades but required a “helmet” like device.

      There’s no people waiting for this who can’t use the existing and safe tech.

      We were literally doing this with monkeys 50 years ago, and Musk killed all his monkey subjects because they couldn’t even do basic brain surgery in a sterilized lab

      Now he wants to do it to humans.

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        2 months ago

        In less than a day of training, both participants broke the record of all previous implants for a game which tests your ability to select items In a grid

        Today, Nolan would probably beat you at that game even with you practicing for (edit quite) a bit.

        Hate the man if you want but this isn’t the same tech that anyone can get and use that’s 50y old.

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          Aye, GSF above has a fundamental ignorance (and I mean that in the neutral, descriptive way) of what the technology is doing. Not going to comment on Musk’s ability to run a company that performs these studies well of course but it’s in clinical trials and there are plenty of punitive regulations in that system to control what people do. Also not saying Musk won’t try to circumvent those like a impatient bozo though. 😂

          And FYI, plenty of asshole scientists, CEOs, and inventors around discovering and making things that make the world what it is today. Musk’s just the one you’re hearing about right now.

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          2 months ago

          Are you trying to quote an article or something?

          Or are you just really sure about what you’re saying …

          Because you shouldnt be

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    I bet this evil fuck has all kinds of patents around this idea so when someone who isn’t a psychopath James Bond villain wants to help people with disabilities by developing a similar device…they won’t be able to.

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    Dude can’t build cars that don’t fall apart when they get wet, and can’t build a truck that doesn’t fall apart for uh, existing, and we’re supposed to let him stick stuff in our brains?

    No, thanks, but no.

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      Why are you saying “No, thanks, but no” when you could be saying “FUCK NO! GET OUTTA HERE WITH THE GARBAGE!”

      You can even add a jersy accient if you want to be extra fun in your telling elon to fuck off.

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        I ignored SpaceX because as far as things go, they’re pretty successful. Rockets blowing up and crashing during testing is pretty much just… a thing rockets do.

        (And Shotwell is in charge far more than Spaceman Musk.)

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          It’s more the issues and failures happen a lot more as soon as musk gets involved. Like the starship launchpad failure

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      Let’s not forget an important distinction here. This man is not making any of these things, and he isn’t capable of making them. But, he is capable of directly and indirectly impacting the people who are capable of making them negatively enough that we get utter failures like the cybertruck.

      Don’t give him more credit than he deserves.

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        Also important:

        This tech has been around for about 25 years already, first success was 1998…

        Johnny received his implants in March 1998. During a 12-hour operation, Bakay inserted the electrodes, housed in two glass cones, into the area of Johnny’s cortex that controls left-hand movement. Once the cones were implanted, the doctors believed that axons – parts of the brain cell that transmit electrical impulses – would grow through them. When an impulse passed along an axon, it would be intercepted by tiny gold contacts and transmitted through the electrodes. ‘‘Axons are really like telephone lines,’’ Kennedy explains. ‘‘We’re just diverting the lines and eavesdropping on the call.’’

        The hope was that by imagining he was moving his paralyzed left hand, Johnny would cause an increase in electrical impulses passing among the neurons there. These impulses could then be transmitted by the implanted electrodes to a receiver placed on Johnny’s pillow, and from there, the analog brain signals could be translated into digital commands that Johnny’s computer could understand. In theory, by controlling the frequency with which the neurons in his motor cortex fire, Johnny could move a cursor up or down, left or right on his screen.

        https://www.nytimes.com/2000/06/11/magazine/tech-2010-07-brainpower-making-contact-the-mind-that-moves-objects.html

        Musk is just paying people to miniaturize existing tech and is using marketing to make people believe he’s personally inventing it

        The bad part is his absolute disregard for basic lab safety and pretty much any other regulation.

        It’s like how SpaceX doesn’t care how many rockets explode, Musk probably views early adaptors as sacrificial lambs.

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        Don’t give him more credit than he deserves.

        Banks should have listened to this when he wanted a loan to buy twitter.

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        Oh for sure: Musk can barely make a shitpost on Twitter, let alone actually do anything else.

        But, conversely, he’s in a position to dictate culture and policy and direction and that’s led to shitty cars and whatever the fuck is going on at Twitter.

        Aaaand yes, past performance is not a predictor for future outcomes, but uh, somehow I don’t think it’s irrelevant either.

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    2 months ago

    I would love a brain implant. I want to live in the Matrix, I want to have the Feed. Just not from him. Never from him.