uhhhh…
anyone else totally misinterpret the lede to mean “there’s no reason to go to work at an office” lol?
Definite “Friday was the name of his horse!” energy here.
Yep. Pretty sure the editor knew what they were doing 🙂
It’s like god damn Odysseus and Polyphemus up in here.
Such a dick move
First devouring all of Fantasia, now this.
Hahaha
…but why? They outsource all of the phone’s development!
Nothing is requiring employees to be in the office
fiveANY days a weekFTFY
Not according to the article linked. It. Ever mentions this. I was so confused as someone who read this article more than once to see people in the comments saying things like read the article.
According to this and other articles I’ve read they were already requiring hybrid work accomodations (and has transitioned to hybrid work from purely WFH). One other thing is this doesn’t necessarily seem to effect sales and press related roles.
** "After launching remotely during the covid-19 pandemic in 2020, Nothing has now mandated that its 450 employees will have to come into the company’s London office five days a week. In an email to staffers last week, Nothing CEO Carl Pei suggested that those unable to transition from remote working should leave the company and “find an environment where you thrive.”
Pei’s goal, according to the email he published on LinkedIn, is to improve collaboration and innovation across design, engineering, and manufacturing, which he argues “does not work well remotely.” The new mandate will take effect in two months, and Pei will be accepting live questions about the decision from Nothing staffers during the company’s next town hall meeting.
“Remote work is not compatible with a high ambition level plus high speed,” Pei said in the email, telling employees who are worried about flexibility that “this is a company for grown ups.”
“I know this is a controversial decision that may not be a fit for everyone, and there are definitely companies out there that thrive in remote or hybrid setups,” he added. “But that’s not right for our type of business, and won’t help us fully realize our potential as a company.”
Return-to-office mandates are hardly unique in this industry. Meta, Amazon, Google, Roblox, and even Zoom have all scaled back their remote working policies following the winding down of pandemic-driven lockdowns, but most of those changes require staff to be in offices for up to three days a week.
By comparison, Nothing’s demand for five-day office attendance may sting for employees who helped shape the company while embracing its founding work-from-home environment. We haven’t found any comments from staffers on the situation, but they may be waiting until the company meeting to voice concerns." **
I wanna see them pay for office hours AND commute hours. In a big city you easily have 1+ hour a day irrevocably lost to commuting.
Companies don’t even have to pay people for the time spent going through their own required security checks… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrity_Staffing_Solutions,_Inc._v._Busk
Scumbags all.
Wow. Now I don’t want to go to the US even harder than before.
So glad I live in California. A faulty security gate once prevented me from leaving my job on time. Which pushed me past 12 hours on shift, which automatically meant I was earning twice my hourly wage while I waited. Plus it required a mandatory additional meal break, which I couldn’t take. Since I couldn’t take it, I was automatically given an additional full hour’s wage, as required by state law.
I’m glad I don’t work for a company that forces me to go through a security gate, and I’m glad we don’t track hours. I get paid salary, and I rarely work more than 8 hours in a given day, and my average hours worked per week is usually under 40.
It’s nice you had some protections, but those protections really shouldn’t be necessary.
Being salaried doesn’t remove you from those protections, at least in Europe. You get overtime, which is either 1.5x pay or you accumulate PTO.
In the US most salaried positions are not eligible for overtime. Unfortunately, California has yet to close that loophole.
The next job above me is salaried. If I were to get a promotion, I’d be making about 2/3 of my current income because I would lose all of the hourly protections I have. Despite a higher base pay.
You’re lucky. Many people on salary end up working overtime with no pay increase.
Once again, there are good managers & (far too frequently) bad (Elon loving cockwomble) managers
If I’m reading that right, the decision was reversed by the 9th circuit.
The District Court originally dismissed the case, ruling that the security checks were made after the regular work shift and therefore not “an integral and indispensable part” of the job. The Ninth Circuit disagreed, ruling that the checks were necessary to the principal work of the job.[2][3]
The US Supreme Court then reversed the Ninth Circuit ruling. You’re quoting the background that gives context to the case in the lixned article.
The grown ups comment makes the CEO sound like a condescending prick. Yeah I’d be looking for another job after that.
Carl is well known to be a smug, condescending, prick
Could you share more on this?
Just have read numerous articles talking with him, or about him, he is always this way, and when I come across articles talking about him with his workers, or from their perspective, they say they don’t like him, or dance around calling him and asshole. I have also seen screenshots of his social media showing him acting like an ass, and the general discussion accompanying them is that he is arrogant, egotistical, etc.
I couldn’t point you to a specific place at this point, as I don’t remember the news specifically, just the general information. However I don’t imagine that it would take hours of digging to find it.
Here’s an instance - lol ‘instance’
I can see what folks mean by smug.
At the same time, I think he genuinely wants to provide the best experience and value for phone users.
As a OnePlus user before and after his involvement, and setting aside hardware differences, it’s small but notable steps backward in Oxygen OS since his departure. OP now literally copys iOS for many parts of it’s UI and I’m not a fan.
Either way, it’s not like this is aberrent behavior or speech from any CEO.
“Tim Cook tells 16h day Chinese laborers to ‘lick his balls.’” -is not a headline that would surprise anyone.
Just corporate real estate.
That’s literally it. The whole reason.
It’s also easier to spy on their employees
I dunno, I felt the most spied upon in my (programming) career when my team had a Slack channel going and everybody was expected to be available during working hours, even though I was WFH. When I actually worked in the main headquarters in downtown Philly, I would fuck off a lot and go shopping or take two hour lunches with beer and stuff like that. They even had a “sick room” on my floor with a very comfortable couch that I would take regular 45 minute naps on after lunch (until the fucking InfoSys contractors discovered it). Nobody ever said shit.
Ultimately both situations required me to produce actual software to keep the bosses happy, but the Slack channel experience was the only time I was really expected to be present mentally the whole official work time.
Really? You can keep Slack up in the background and appear “online” all day. Get the app on your phone, and you don’t even have to be at your desk to be “available.” I’ve had Slack conversations while walking around at the local park. It’s really no big deal.
If they expect you to be available for huddles at the drop of a hat, that’s just unreasonable. But as long as responding to a chat within an hour or two is acceptable, WFH is fantastic.
I respond to Slack messages by end of day. If someone has something urgent they will call me (on the work number, of course).
At my org, we don’t have phone numbers for each other. If it’s urgent, just keep pinging them on Slack until they respond, and ping multiple people who can potentially help. It’s incredibly rare that you’ll ever need a specific individual on an urgent basis, almost everything can wait until tomorrow morning, and even emergencies can be handled by more than one person.
Fucking Infosys contractors indeed.
Except bosses?
I have a hypothesis that anyone who is required to be on site without having to do a hands-on thing (e.g. physical maintenance or repair) is actually a garden hermit, that is, hired to perform as an extra for the pleasure of viewing upper management.
I also have a hypothesis that a lot of company budget and material goes towards handling and pacifying upper management (e.g. the way a binky pacifies an infant) since they are accustomed to being coddled and not accustomed to actually managing.
To be fair, I’ve only been able to observe the relationships between clerical class and management class in a handful of companies, including a small one-store CD-Rom reseller and Bechtel Corporation circa 1990, but my observations have been consistent between them.
I have a hypothesis that anyone who is required to be on site without having to do a hands-on thing (e.g. physical maintenance or repair) is actually a garden hermit, that is, hired to perform as an extra for the pleasure of viewing upper management.
They’re Type 1 Bullshit Jobs, aka “Flunkies”
Flunky jobs primarily exist to make someone else look or feel important. Throughout recorded history, rich and powerful people would surround themselves with servants, clients, sycophants, and minions of one sort or another.
This sounds about right to me.
Chaff
Then I’m not buying anything from them again.
I’ve bought Nothing from this company. Like, nothing. No no nothing. Like zero of nothing. I’ll leave now.
Man I hate how I barely ever buy anything, makes it impossible to boycott any company
Got everything on your way out? Nothing left behind?
So this is a company whose foundation was work from home and thus has that as it’s background culture? Yeah this is just an excuse for layoffs without paying.
Metallica/Napster all over again
“We have just opened our new corporate office in Bumfuck, Nowhere! We’d like to thank the county of Bumfuck for their generous grant of taxpayer dollars. Now all employees will be required to work in person or be terminated for cause.”
Instead of a planned layoff, it’s a layoff of random people, with a bias towards laying off the most capable.
r/titlegore the fault of the original article
Holy fucking shit what an awful title.
It’s aggressively bad.
they knew
It’s a pun, mildly amusing.
“this is a company for adults” says the CEO of a company who slaps “Glyph” lights on knockoff iPhones and calls it innovative. I hate when I see Carl Pei’s smug face pop up every few months. Hey Carl - put a fucking charger in the box. OnePlus is thriving without you.
I won’t buy anything that isn’t stock Android. Sick of never being able to find anything.
Not sure what you’re saying… ru referencing Nothing OS, or Oxygen… or…?
Anything that isn’t a Pixel, pretty much. Every single manufacturer seems to think it’s their duty to replace all the settings screens with their own custom bullshit.
No devices have “stock Android” though. Even the Pixel is a customized version of Android. Vanilla AOSP doesn’t even have a usable phone dialer included with it.
