I think about this often. It’s the overall world view for some people. It’s hard to escape the bubble, despite us clearly seeing how stupid the bubble is from the outside. Sometimes I wonder if some people are so afraid of failure that they have to have something, anything, to hang their pride on. Choosing your race or skin color to be proud of is much easier than being proud of your community or actions or cultural expression or scientific achievements. Probably because those things shift and change and require thought and patience. In their minds, they may not think they are privileged but rather victims. They may not think they are racist, but that they are looking our for their own and just misunderstood. A lot of it is victim-mentality and quite frankly collectively narcassistic. I don’t think this is unique to white supremacists, but any supremacists at all.

That’s, ironically, how the white supremacists felt all these years lol

Good point. It can translate to direct money donations to a political party.

I wonder what kind of “republican” changes to Proton would be possible to put forth without angering the majority of users or defeating the point of Proton altogether. That’s why I don’t see this as a prelude to anything major. What do you think?

Yeah I can understand that completely.

And is there a risk he may invest money further into fascism?

Seems to me like the issue is that CEOs exist, not that this particular one has some personal opinion.

Fair enough! So what do you hope to accomplish with this action? Like, goal wise, is it to change Proton’s stance? Or is it more about being an ethical consumer?

But wouldn’t it be more productive to talk to Proton about this obviously crappy PR instead of descending into unnecessary cancelling of a perfectly good service?

And how do we know none of the other services also have fascists in their midst? This circle could go on forever until no services are left.

Asking seriously.

I don’t think any CEO I’ve ever worked for speaks for me…

Why treat Proton like it’s the work of a single person rather than a large team?

I’ve had, hands down, one of the worst project managers in the world. Hewas overly concerned with team politics and toxicly positive. His toxic positivity was the main reason in my opinion as to why we never delivered anything usable to the company and were eventually downsized. He had no vision at all for quick and frequent delivery… he was the wrong person for the job but consistently believed that he just needed to “do his best for the day” and sleep happy that night. Meanwhile, his team was boiling with frustration and wasted work hours for features requested by management on a whim — these usually end up fully forgotten by the time they are production ready. His biggest accomplishment is somewhat shielding his team from upper management… sometimes. He was such a bottle neck and our team was a net loss to the company except where they could advertise “using AI” in their products. If he had been removed, and we (his team) had to manage things ourselves with the stakeholders, we would have probably been able to deliver something worthwhile every quarter or so.