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    You saying it’s okay to murder me as long as I don’t remember it when I’m older or something?

    One could make that point, but no.

    Infanticide being a crime does not compromise the body autonomy or health of another conscious human. Criminalizing abortion, does.

    The difference between a foetus and bacteria or ants, is that a foetus is human. Bacteria and ants aren’t.

    This is a false distinction. Why is human life more important than other life? What elevates a small collection of human cells above an equivalent number of insect cells?

    I cannot believe we’ve stooped to this level of immorality.

    I could say the same. This sentence serves no purpose, and will convince absolutely no-one that your sense of ethics is more developed than mine.

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      Abortion isn’t “bodily autonomy” Your body doesn’t automatically have a miscarriage on a whim. It’s inserting an instrument into a woman’s body and destroying another person who’s in there. Human life is more valuable than human life. We literally eat animals. Again, the fact I have to explain to someone that killing another person because you don’t want to face up to the consequences of your actions, and no, killing a person isn’t the same as killing an animal, shows how far we’ve regressed.

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        You have no idea what you’re talking about.

        A collection of sells that may or may not even have formed neurons yet, is not a person

        consequences of your actions

        And there it is. You want women to be punished for the crime of having sex. Or being raped. Or having a condom break. Whatever.

        You’re a misogynist asshole with no argument.

        Human life is more valuable than human life.

        I think you meant to claim that undeveloped fetuses have more rights than women.

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          Saying “getting pregnant” is a punishment for the “crime of having sex” is like saying dying from fall damage is like punishing suicidal people for jumping off bridges

          Also, Children aren’t “punishments”

          If men could get pregnant, I’ll still be anti abortion. There’s nothing misogynistic about not wanting to kill innocent people. There’s nothing about wanting to control women. I think contraception should be freely and easily available, but both the father and the mother should face up to it on the off chance if they get pregnant. Many things have risks, even driving. Sex is no exception.

          Women and foetuses have a right to life. Giving birth won’t kill you 99% of the time.

          It’s very clear that you’re just a nazi who wants everyone to die. If you wouldn’t be arrested for it, you would go around shooting up daycares and maternity wards because you’re an incel who thinks if you cannot get a wife to bless you with children, then nobody should be able to. Or you hate the world and think that you want to bring everyone down with you. Or you’re a sex crazed pervert who wants people to die for your pleasure. Or all of the above.

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            Those are some world class assumptions you are making about me.

            Pregnancy, childbirth, and parenthood are traumatic and giant commitments that should NEVER be dropped on anyone by chance.

            Comparing accidental parenthood to accidental death or injury is fucking stupid. Those things do not involve a massive avoidable physiological process that ends in suddenly becoming responsible for raising a new person and/or somehow seeing to it that they live a good life.

            Parenthood can and should be planned, and 100% avoided if necessary. Abortion is, and must continue to be, the last way out.

            Thinking otherwise is monstrous.

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              You’re the one who made assumptions about me first calling me a misogynist.

              Contraception is the last way out. Use it.

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                At least I made some reasonable leaps in logic.

                Calling someone who wants to guarantee women one of the most basic rights a human should have, a “nazi”, is a bit a jump, eh?