• muzzle@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    Rust is more like: unless you can mathematically prove to me that this is equivalent to a nut there is no ducking way I’ll ever let you compiled this.

            • MajorHavoc@programming.dev
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              8 months ago

              Yeah. The verdict is still out on whether having a deeply surly compiler will help me focus on iterating and understanding the client’s needs.

              I run Python CICD controls on main with at least the same level of prissiness (as Rust comes with), but at least Python knows how to shut up and let me prototype.

              I’m currently not convinced that Rust’s opinionated design hits a useable long term sweet spot.

              But I think if Rust adds a debug flag --fuck-off-i-need-to-try-something, it could genuinely become the next Python, and the world would be better for it.

              Edit: And if I just missed the --fuck-off-i-need-to-try-something Rust flag, someone point me at it, and I’ll gladly give Rust another run.

              • Fal@yiffit.netEnglish
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                8 months ago

                Once you get the hang of rust you don’t ever need to ask it to do unsafe things. It’s not really any faster to do things unsafe

                • MajorHavoc@programming.dev
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                  7 months ago

                  It’s not really any faster to do things unsafe

                  Yeah. Which is how I roll with Python now, as a Python Zen master. But Python was a little charmer when I was learning it to replace my Perl scripts.

                  In contrast, Rust would not shut up the last time I was trying to do an unsafe local bubble sort, just to get to know it. What I got to know was that I was working with a language that was going to go out of it’s way to get in my, each time way I wanted to do something it didn’t like.

                  Rust was easily the worst first date with a programming language I have had in a long time, and I can code in both varieties of ‘Pikachu’.

                  Again, it’s just my first impression, not the last word on the language. But I have enough tools in my belt that I didn’t need to add Rust.

                  I’ll try that ‘unsafe’ flag next time, and we will see if it can sort my local music files by artist name without having a security fit.

                  Edit: Responses here have convinced me not to give Rust another shot. Reeks of the Java community. If that’s what’s happening here, the Java devs can have this one to themselves. They’ll probably fill it with XML again. I didn’t want to like Rust anyway. And everyone needs to get off my lawn.