• jordanlund@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    $29.75

    10% - Move the decimal. $2.975
    Round up - $3.00
    Half that for 5% - $1.50
    15% - $4.50
    Double for 20% - $6.00

      • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        4 months ago

        That’s a completely separate situation.

        Yes, tipping culture is out of control and needs to be abolished. But screwing over the wait staff or delivery driver currently providing you service will never have any impact on the big wigs that made the decision to play them less than minimum wage.

        Why is this so difficult for people?

        Pay reasonable tips for reasonable service people paid under minimum wage. Also work with your local politicians to eliminate tipping. Do not withold tips from people working under minimum wage unless you just want to be part of the boot stepping on them.

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          Why is this so difficult for people?

          Because, for the people who refuse to “get it,” it isn’t actually about exploitation or whatever other lip service they give to make themselves seem magnanimous for not tipping, it’s about the fact that they don’t want to give the delivery driver a penny and have to lie to you and themselves so they think they’re good people. They’re not, though. If they were they’d see it like you do, they’re just selfish and deep down they know it so they concoct their lies to defer blame from their conscience.

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              No, if you do that you get it.

              “Don’t give the place your money” is good,

              “give the place the money but not the staff member” is bad.

              If you avoid those places what I said doesn’t apply to you, you’re already doing the thing I said is better.

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            Nah, it’s because we don’t keep putting forth a Strawman argument. Tipped jobs are ALLOWED to pay their workers less than minimum wage IF AND ONLY IF their tips do not make up the difference. If they do not, the employer must cover it.

            It is literally subsidizing the wages that otherwise the business would legally have to pay. So how do you fight back? You don’t tip and employees need to properly report their tips. The system already has the mechanism in place to fix this.

            But you say this and all the people who make WAY MORE than minimum wage with their tips get up in arms because you’re daring to take away their advantage. It’s being exploited by both sides. It’s not about fair treatment for everyone, it’s about “getting mine at someone else’s expense”.

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              Of course, that assumes lack of regulatory capture, a regulatory agency interested in effective enforcement, enough funding to do that enforcement, and effective protections for whistleblowing when employers threaten to fire employees who don’t report high enough tips even when they don’t receive them.

              The US don’t have more than one of these (I don’t know the situation on regulatory capture, so I’m giving benefit of the doubt there).

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      Because they took forever to add a $1 tip to the total (as they indicate by saying it takes them a while to do the math)

            • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Yes, but until such time that is happening, you are also an asshole for not tipping where people are being paid under minimum wage.

              Amazingly, both of these concepts can be true simultaneously!

              You not tipping the service worker will never have any impact on the company’s decision to be assholes and pay less than minimum wage.

              Working with local politicians and boycotting said companies might. But most people in the US complaining about this shit want to have their cake and eat it too.

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                The employee shouldn’t shift blame onto the customer though. Like if the customer decides not to give you a big tip, don’t get mad at the customer. Get mad at your own employer for not paying you a living wage and expecting customers to just volunteer more money regardless of their financial situation.

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                  regardless of their financial situation

                  I’m too broke to order for delivery and tip and all that. Do you know what I do? I pick up, or cook at home. I don’t engage with the service that would expect me to tip, because if I’m too poor to spend $5 on not being a huge cunt I’m too poor to spend $20 on a pizza, I’m gonna cook a damn $5 Red Baron, or $7 worth of pasta and sauce for the next two days.

                  If you can’t afford to tip, you can’t afford the menu price either. Source: I can’t afford the tip, and while I may have the menu price on me rn I truly need to save it because there’ll be something I need it more for later than momentary endorphins released by melted cheese.