It’s just one of 6,000 apps that New Zealand thinks might be best tamed with ERP

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    6 hours ago

    Only those with no experience in corporate finance will find this surprising.

    Excel is a powerful tool. The only ones who ridicule it are idiots who don’t understand anything.

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      1 hour ago

      Is it powerful? Yes

      Is it fast when dealing with large volume of data? No

      Are the “powerful” features intuitive to new users? Also no.

      Source: I use Excel, Python, SQL for job

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      5 hours ago

      It’s not… Try to write a formula range which covers only lower half of the column which is typical setup in summing numbers( avoiding headers ), limits in columns and records, ever changing formats across versions… You asking for a disaster to happen which happens very often

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        5 hours ago

        Try to write a formula range which covers only lower half of the column which is typical setup in summing numbers( avoiding headers )

        You can literally label ranges to use them as variables in Excel formulae, not to mention Excel Tables has more operations and features than you’ll ever need.

        limits in columns and records

        Unless you are working with an unfiltered, un-aggregated ledger dump straight out of your database (in which case you shouldn’t be let anywhere near an office computer), it’s rather hard to cross 1M+ rows and 16.4k columns in corporate finance.

        ever changing formats across versions

        The .xlsx format was introduced in 2007 (18 years ago) and hasn’t changed since. Not to mention you can still use all kinds of plaintext formats whenever you want.

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          Anybody who used ANY library to process xslx knows MS keeps changing it :-) About ranges… can you give me the range for whole columns minus 6 first records and 9 last records?

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            Anybody who used ANY library to process xslx knows MS keeps changing it :-)

            I highly doubt that, also, people in corporate finance do not use libraries to process excel files.

            About ranges… can you give me the range for whole columns minus 6 first records and 9 last records?

            =OFFSET(first_cell, 7, COLUMNS(range_name), ROWS(range_name)-9-7) where range_name is the label given to the whole table and first_cell is its first cell.

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            3 hours ago

            Would you like this in excel formula, VBA, or python?

            It can be done in all. You’re only proving the other poster’s point. Excel isn’t necessarily the best option for tech literate people but given the tech illiteracy of many offices, it isn’t surprising they use excel for stuff like this.

    • BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world
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      6 hours ago

      In fairness to the register they also ridicule moving to a dedicatdd ERP in the same article.

      You’re r absolutely right there is nothing wrong with Excel. Its powerful software and ultimately it cones down to human and organisational processes about whether its being used to its best or not. You can also have the most expensive top end dedicated ERP in the world and still be a total mess. Similarly business used to run on pen and paper and could be highly efficient.

      Software is just a tool, and organisation go wrong when they think it alone is the solution to their problems.

      Also I doubt Health NZ overspend has anything whatsoever to do with excel. Instead it’ll be due to rising demand, and inflationary pressures on public finances. We have the exact problems here in the UK with the NHS just scaled up to a £182bn.