• Bwaz@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Well. O. K. Then it’s my not the 'USA" that did this anymore. It’s to be called “North Mexico” now. Fair’s fair.

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    13 days ago

    I’m currently in France, this is what I see on Google maps Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)

    What a f*cking joke 😂

    Maps.me shows the real name

    As does mappy.cz

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      12 days ago

      I’m in Canada, and Google maps shows me the same as what you are seeing.

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    13 days ago

    I’m in the process of migrating my saved locations and addresses to Organic Maps. Bye Google.

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    13 days ago

    I don’t honestly see a big issue with this. First of all: It’s called Gulf of America, not Gulf of USA. Considering it’s a gulf between south and north American continents it’s actually a more fitting name and in no way excludes Mexico.

    And secondly, you can just move on with your life and keep calling it the Gulf of Mexico and everyone will perfectly understand what you mean. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and telling you to adopt the new name. Same applies to Twitter and Facebook too for example.

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      13 days ago

      +1. Couldn’t care less. My life will go on. I’m not going to use GMaps anyway.

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      12 days ago

      Changing facts to suit a nationalist and fascist state, purely for jingoism, is appeasement.

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        12 days ago

        This doesn’t really have anything to do with facts, though. Names of people, objects and places change all the time.

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          12 days ago

          Yes, based on nationalist reasons, to chnage facts to suit governments.

          This is no different to google kowtowing to China’s imagined borders.

          The fact is the worls knows this is the Gulf of Mexico. Not whatever Trump imagines it to be callled. Denali is still Denali, as well.

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      13 days ago

      The “big issue” with this it that it is being done entirely to appease the vain whims of an egocentric wannabe dictator, and for no other reason.

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    Using google maps from Australia it’s labelled like “Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)”

    I think the Australian government should call it “gulf of not Australia” and see if google adds another title.

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    12 days ago

    Interesting discussion about this on the OpenStreetMap forums.

    The resolution is alternative name tags, referencing “en_us”, because “en” is not just the U.S.:

    https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/gulf-of-america-gulf-of-mexico/124571/11

    So when OsmAnd or OrganicMaps start to support them, maybe your locale settings will change the displayed name there as well.

    Current description of that node: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305639190/history/80

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    12 days ago

    Genuinely curious… How does Google handle other oceanic naming that isn’t agreed upon Worldwide?

    Google Maps view of the Southern Ocean around Antarctica

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      12 days ago

      Generally, Google shows the appropriate name based upon where you are located. So for everyone outside of 'murica, it’s still the Gulf of Mexico.

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        They said that but it’s a fat lie.

        They did say both names, but this is a complete cop out.

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    Next president, assuming there is one, will just change it back to repair relations with our allies.

    Even if it never gets changed back, it’ll be a generation before people actually start calling it that. No one alive now is going to give a fuck about the Gulf of America or call it that.

    Hey conservatives, not that you’re intelligent enough to figure out how to get on Lemmy, but if by some miracle one of you reads this, why is Trump doing this and floating invading our allies and annexing their territories instead of lowering the price of groceries as promised on day 1?

  • ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca
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    13 days ago

    The change reflects Google’s policy of adhering to official government names for geographical locations.

    OK, so why am I seeing Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America) from Canada?

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      13 days ago

      If Justin Trudeau gets active on this, you can probably get it to Gulf of Canada (Gulf of Mexico) (Gulf of America).

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      13 days ago

      Same here in Europe.

      This is highly irregular for several reasons:

      Google adheres to official government positions, yes, but as far as I’m aware the American government hasn’t made the name change official yet. Members of the government have said that they’d do this, but I don’t think this idea has passed any process yet. So then why is Google “updated” their maps?

      When Google adheres to official government positions, they are local. In example, when you’re in China and look up Taiwan, it’ll appear as part of China. In other countries it’ll appear as either an independent country or a disputed territory, depending on that government’s official position on the matter. What we DON’T see is something like “Taiwan (China)”, as Google supposedly has no intention on forcing the policies of one government upon another government, and as far as I’m aware the rest of the world hasn’t agreed to changing The Gulf of Mexico to The Gulf of America.

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        13 days ago

        If anyone’s interested, here’s what it looks like in Europe. The good news: this is the first time I’ve had to use Google Maps in a loooong time (ignoring embedded maps in other sites). OpenStreetMap is wonderful and there are some superb apps powered by it, including the ever-excellent Organic Maps.

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      13 days ago

      From the Wikipedia for Gulf of Mexico:

      While the Interior Department confirmed that the Gulf of America name was effective for U.S. federal agencies, on January 24, the change does not apply in an international context.

  • Laser@lemmy.ca
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    13 days ago

    What a bunch of cucks! The billionaires have fully taken over!

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        13 days ago

        Also a great choice. I prefer organic maps for a variety of reasons (like ability to contribute to the maps), but a lot of people prefer OsmAnd. They are both very good.

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        12 days ago

        Organic Maps has fewer features and settings, a more stripped-down user interface, and concentrates on what most people use the most (find an address, navigate to it).
        It is also much, much faster than OsmAnd.
        Personally, I find OsmAnd too slow and clunky, and Organic Maps a bit too basic.
        But I prefer Organic Maps 95% of the time.

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        OsmAnd is the Swiss army knife of Open Street Map frontends, but as I’m sure you’ll agree on (if you’ve used it), it can be a bit of a headache setting it up, as well as getting familiar with it.

        Organic Maps caters more to people seeking a pure alternative to Google/Apple Maps. It’s the layman’s alternative.

        If you’re a poweruser, and already familiar with OsmAnd, there’s no point in switching. But in terms of getting other, non tech savvy, people to switch, it’s a great recommendation!

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        You might be interested in Magic Earth it is also built on OpenStreetMap but includes crowdsourced traffic data. If you are in a big city then it’s likely they have good data for your area.