What omnivores eat should actually matter to vegans because theyre responsible for stress and suffering, which many see as their moral obligation to oppose. Funny how its mostly the other way around.
Imagine people going around raging about how you dont beat your wife and kids or dont rape and kill children.
Also the environmental impacts. I don’t own a huge polluting coal powerplant that is actively contributing to fucking up the planet that I live on, and I’m still allowed to criticise them for it. Why should the meat industry be any different?
As I already stated, I’m not getting baited into a morality debate.
If you don’t like eating meat- don’t eat it, but leave others alone about. It’s not your business what they choose to eat.
And WTF? This has nothing to do with beating kids, or raping children, and I don’t appreciate the disgusting false equivalency you feel you need to use in order to make a point.
So instead, here’s an actual equivalency:
Imagine people going around and telling you that you have to do something you don’t want to do because of their belief. Like for instance….
forced birth.
You are actually telling people what they should or should not do, based on how you morally feel about something.
What I’m suggesting, is simply a dietary version of pro choice. You should be free to eat how you feel you need to in order to satisfy your needs, as well as your moral code- provided it remains within the limits of the law. EVERYONE should have this freedom. Even if you or I don’t like it.
So maybe leave people alone about it and put that energy towards something that has a better chance of success
I dont understand your point. Everyone DOES have the freedom you are talking about and noone is debating that. Why are you pretending like thats not the case?
In some areas men are allowed to best their wives. Youre still allowed to critisize them for it, and you should be allowed to.
Apology accepted. And thanks for proving my point. You can’t leave people alone and you feel that you’re entitled to tell others what to eat based on your own personal belief regardless if they ask you for your opinion.
You are literally the quintessential obnoxious vegan that people talk about- that I used to defend.
Im not vegan, why would you assume that? Not even vegetarian. I am simply saying people should be allowed to criticize others based on their moral beliefs. What you are saying is “people should stop criticizing me for my behaviour because I think I am morally correct”. Thats not how the world works.
firstly, i find it funny how u insist this isnt a morality debate.
but what is most interesting to me is how u say:
You should be free to eat how you feel you need to in order to satisfy your needs, as well as your moral code- provided it remains within the limits of the law.
so ur ok with the state and its police coming in and telling u what not to eat or to give birth, but when anyone else does it, thats no longer okay?
seems like kind of an arbitrary position.
like, what is ur actual stance on the issue? or does it always flex around whatever the law of the place ur in says?
oh and as others have already said, if ur diet infringes on other being’s right to live, u forfeit ur right to not be criticized for what u eat. imo
What omnivores eat should actually matter to vegans because theyre responsible for stress and suffering, which many see as their moral obligation to oppose. Funny how its mostly the other way around.
Imagine people going around raging about how you dont beat your wife and kids or dont rape and kill children.
Also the environmental impacts. I don’t own a huge polluting coal powerplant that is actively contributing to fucking up the planet that I live on, and I’m still allowed to criticise them for it. Why should the meat industry be any different?
As I already stated, I’m not getting baited into a morality debate.
If you don’t like eating meat- don’t eat it, but leave others alone about. It’s not your business what they choose to eat.
And WTF? This has nothing to do with beating kids, or raping children, and I don’t appreciate the disgusting false equivalency you feel you need to use in order to make a point.
So instead, here’s an actual equivalency:
Imagine people going around and telling you that you have to do something you don’t want to do because of their belief. Like for instance….
forced birth.
You are actually telling people what they should or should not do, based on how you morally feel about something.
What I’m suggesting, is simply a dietary version of pro choice. You should be free to eat how you feel you need to in order to satisfy your needs, as well as your moral code- provided it remains within the limits of the law. EVERYONE should have this freedom. Even if you or I don’t like it.
So maybe leave people alone about it and put that energy towards something that has a better chance of success
I dont understand your point. Everyone DOES have the freedom you are talking about and noone is debating that. Why are you pretending like thats not the case?
In some areas men are allowed to best their wives. Youre still allowed to critisize them for it, and you should be allowed to.
Yet another false equivalency. You can’t stop, can you?
Explain please how it is not exactly the same.
No.
Thought so. Sorry for demanding you do something youre not capable of.
Apology accepted. And thanks for proving my point. You can’t leave people alone and you feel that you’re entitled to tell others what to eat based on your own personal belief regardless if they ask you for your opinion.
You are literally the quintessential obnoxious vegan that people talk about- that I used to defend.
Enjoy your evening.
Im not vegan, why would you assume that? Not even vegetarian. I am simply saying people should be allowed to criticize others based on their moral beliefs. What you are saying is “people should stop criticizing me for my behaviour because I think I am morally correct”. Thats not how the world works.
firstly, i find it funny how u insist this isnt a morality debate. but what is most interesting to me is how u say:
so ur ok with the state and its police coming in and telling u what not to eat or to give birth, but when anyone else does it, thats no longer okay?
seems like kind of an arbitrary position. like, what is ur actual stance on the issue? or does it always flex around whatever the law of the place ur in says?
oh and as others have already said, if ur diet infringes on other being’s right to live, u forfeit ur right to not be criticized for what u eat. imo
Yet another false equivalency. Thanks for playing. Not wasting my time.
u made the equivalency first.
What’re makes you feel better! Take care now!