I saw it from the monster hunter community, now you can’t post the source of a fanart lol.
You can always leave their @handle if you want to credit them. Most artists also have other channels. If they only have X… Well sucks to be them but it’s thteir choice.
Might get more artists to move to Bluesky at least
Here on Lemmy, people who claim to advocate for freedom of speech and information, demanding for information shared on social networks to be controlled, shutdown and people to be censored based on unknown and ambiguous criteria, without even understanding the implications of it.
Details at six
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Existence of mods goes against the concept of freedom of speech. People aren’t prevented from directly using Twitter themselves. They’d be on 4chan if they wanted something as close to an unfiltered internet.
We wouldn’t be on our respective instances that have blocked off entire instances and communities if we wanted to consume unfiltered internet content.
Not to worry, you’re simply confusing freedom of speech with obliging private actors to consume content they don’t want to consume or disagree with. The first is a fundemental principle of democratic legal systems and recognized as a perempotry norm under international law. The second is authoritarianism.
There’s a growing number of legally illiterate people who think freedom of speech is absolute and even affords one the right to oblige others consume their speech through the government. That is fundamentally wrong and a complete misunderstanding of how these key principles of freedom work and have always worked in modern democratic systems.
Newsflash - freedom of speech is not absolute. Never has been. There are very specific, explicitly codified limitations. Why? Because words are the most powerful weapons and can be used to target and threaten the freedoms of other people, including their freedom to life. Which is why rights and obligations are always balanced against each other, following the principle of proportionality.
If you feel so strongly about not being able force others to consume content they don’t want to consume, then I have bad news for you - you are opposing democracy. But it seems like you, and many other like you, are just confused, rather than actively promoting anti-democratic standpoints. The truly sad part? The impact is the same regardless of intent.
Edit: Want to know more? Details at 6.
It’s so typical to see 90% good argument and 10% insult the OP & half the country. If believers stuck to the 90% good argument and left out the insults you’d win a lot of followers.
I don’t want any followers or believers. Calling it as I see it. That is all.
He’s a nazi. There’s no space it civil society for nazis.
Look, I’m all for freedom of speech. I’m nearly as close to an absolutist as they come.
This is an example of a protest. Nobody is restricting anybody’s speech. They aren’t banning Musk-supporters. They aren’t censoring Trumpers. They are specifically banning links to a website owned by a billionaire who did a Nazi salute at an event where hundreds of millions if not billions of people would witness him.
100, I get more dislikes here than I ever did on Reddit.
Downvotes are not a form of censorship.
Also, that sounds like a you problem, not an “us” problem.
I know downvotes aren’t censorship. Not really, I saw the change happen in real time. I was on Twitter before it was run by Feds.
Weird tangent, but ok
What does freedom of speech have to do with independent subreddits deciding they don’t want to serve content from a private company they don’t agree with?
It’s easy if they have no idea what “freedom of speech” actually means and what it actually allows. The phrase at face value is nothing like the constitutionally protected action. They are too ignorant to know that.
That’s easy, freedom of speech means you can say what I want but not what you want, and it applies everywhere including in my dreams. So if you say something I don’t like in my dreams I can criminally charge you and take you to hell in a cell.
A more fractured internet is coming. Posting sources will be forbidden. Discourse will become more polarized, disconnected, and extreme.
Most of these Reddit bans on Twitter are also half assed. They still allow screenshots of Twitter posts. That means the content is still spread, and Twitter remains relevant.
Lots of these subreddits don’t even get a lot of Twitter links in the first place. Like for lotrmemes it makes zero difference.
That said, Musk and Twitter suck. I have deleted my Twitter account three years ago.
However there still is some information, where Twitter is a good source.
Most of these Reddit bans on Twitter are also half assed. They still allow screenshots of Twitter posts. That means the content is still spread, and Twitter remains relevant.
I wholeheartedly agree. I personally got fed up trying to make a new account recently where I got shadowbanned, where there’s accounts that steal posts from the past and repost them as new just to farm karma and they stay up despite bots detecting them as spam/reposts.
My point is if they’re looking to enforce something they should not do it in a half-assed way.
I did see a sub called fullmoviesonyoutube or something where a mod soloed the ban. Pretty amusing to read the user comments in that one
Lots of these subreddits don’t even get a lot of Twitter links in the first place. Like for lotrmemes it makes zero difference.
Thet’s not true. Gondor uses Twitter instead of beacons to call for aid now.
However there still is some information, where Twitter is a good source.
I agree. There are some great OSINT posters that share all sorts of information you won’t find anywhere else. For example when Israel struck back at Iran after the initial wave of missiles and drones- it was a guy on twitter who geolocated and found the satellite images of what they hit.
And that information directly contradicted the Israeli official narrative. You won’t find it on NY Times. You won’t find it on Washington Post. Hell, you’d have a hard time finding it here or on reddit. That’s just one example, there’s a wealth of live data about Russia v Ukraine as well. One thing I’ve really learned the last 3 years since 2022 is that the mainstream media will completely lie to you. It isn’t just bias, it’s outright lying. So people online who are dedicated to the truth and provide receipts, I find, is a breath of fresh air. It allows humans without privileged information to go online and actually see with their own eyes what is happening on the ground. It’s something that frankly hasn’t been the case for any time in human history. Although I think it’s going to be a short window of time that will be true.
I think Twitter has progressively been becoming more censored. For now, most people are more or less ignored if you aren’t talking about the hot topics- but I think very soon anything against official US narrative will be banned. Same thing with Facebook, Tiktok, etc.
We’re seeing the social media sites align themselves with the US government in preparation for the next global war. The first thing to go in war is the truth. Soon there will be a giant firewall and we won’t be able to see content from overseas. Initially people will be able to use VPNs and other methods and then eventually that will be met with criminal charges.
I feels like bizarro world if you fall somewhere in the middle of the political spectrum or don’t really care about politics. Seems their are only two extremes and you have to drink the cool-aid of whatever site you’re on or be suppressed. Whether you agree or disagree the push to ban twitter/x from all the sports subs was definitely a coordinated operation. Very troubling to me to see this kind of mass manipulation going on… these sports subs should have nothing to do with politics but maybe I’m the delusional one. I don’t know.
That’s how protests work. Just because you are not affected, does not mean you should not participate. Any subreddit participating is probably trying to show they are anti-nazi, and/or they support the efforts of the others in the platform.
Of course it causes trouble for users, but sadly that’s what Twitter has become and it deserves this hate. None of this would have happened if Elon truly advocated for freedom of speech, instead of using his power to push his right-wing beliefs.
I am proud that there are still some mods in Reddit that take the risk of protesting. I was afraid they got removed on the previous Reddit protest, about pricing changes.
Adding to that, not caring about politics probably means going with the flow and not reacting. Which, in today’s capitalist world, usually means supporting big corporations by using their services, just because everyone else use them.
If you are implying that the ignorant or unwilling should be forced participants in a protest, I would strongly disagree with that statement. I also am seeing a lot of rhetoric that not participating or simply not agreeing with a ban implies you are either a supporter of musk or Nazism… This sort of line in the sand statements are counterproductive, inflammatory, divisive and frankly ignorant.
There is no risk on reddit with such a protest considering the political lean. I don’t use twitter because I personally I hate the way conversations and ‘information’ is structured as well as the content. I don’t also don’t have an issue with subs/admins or even the whole platform banning twitter. What I do have are serious concerns about the mechanisms behind the ban and the further echo chambering of the site. To me, it’s better to have non quality info/sources available and downvote it than to just ban it.
If we like it or not, twitter is still the most important social network for journalisst and thinktankers.
Twitter has always been the red headed step child of social media. It had outsized cultural importance because most people consumed it via screenshot, not actually browsing the site. The reach of an individual twitter user is greatly augmented by their reach on other social platforms via screenshot
Waiting for Spez to weigh in with his typical subtlety and even-handedness… 🍿
And start banning mods who don’t support Musk and Nazism, wholeheartedly.
Even wearing super cyclical goggles, it doesn’t make sense for reddit to intervene here. Twitter is a competitor, why would they want to encourage people to link to a competitor?
If they have a data sharing agreement, I can think of a few rea$on$.
cyclical goggles
The goggles, they keep spinning!
THATS what spez looks like??? I was expecting some corporate looking lawyer type face. This is more like that incel who repulsed girls in high school, and is now in his 40s…but still very much the same person.
Such a punchable face.
Dude, read about the guy. He is such a massive fucking chode.
This is more like that incel who repulsed girls in high school, and is now in his 40s
Don’t forget that he used to be a moderator of r/jailbait
This is more like that incel who repulsed girls in high school, and is now in his 40s
Don’t forget that he used to be a moderator of r/jailbait
TIL… what a fucking douche
He looks like a greedy little pig boy
He’s got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at you it doesn’t seem to be livin’… until he bites you, and those black eyes roll over white.
HEY! DON’T BE A RACIST!
His eyes are lifeless like doll’s eyes, but they are blue! Not Black!
He is the proof that being a white blue eyed blonde person isn’t always attractive.
I’ve seen people who has truly black iris and their eyes are fascinating! Nothing like this punch-able douche bag
They were quoting Jaws.
I’m sure there’s other stuff for you to be offended about though.
He looks like Zuckerberg fucked Ellen DeGeneres.
This is what my eyes will see from this day forward.
Please don’t insult pigs by comparing the to that cunt.
Good idea. We should do this here.
Would much prefer users and instance admins to have better filtering tools.
Assume a single instance should be able to do this no? If so, kind of sad that I don’t think any have that I am aware of.
/c/Playstation has, and lemmy.world has asked users if they should as a sticky.
Kinda wild to me it took this long but I’m not going to be mad about doing the right thing.
He’s going to buy reddit now. Lmao.
That would be good for Lemmy.
Can’t musk simply state that naziism is wrong and hitler was a very bad guy?
That’s right of coarse he can!
HHHMMM!
Why?!
Le epic 14 y/o troll mAStEr mOvE was doing the worst nonverbal political thing one can do and getting away with it without apologizing.
The centrists accept it might have been inadvertent. He’d never have the lefties anyway and the far right will, of course, absolutely love it. It’s the kind of thing a kid in shoes of power might dream up and run by the team and all have fits of laughter: “they can’t prove anything if you don’t say anything!”
/fiction /conspiracytheory
Nice way to commemorate the Jan 6ers’ prison release. And great distraction, as it must be.
Beware of this festering pile of excrement that is the conservative subreddit. Ready your sanity and eye bleach before venturing in
Holy shit. I made the mistake of looking in there. What a festering pile of misinformed louts. There’s not a brain cell to be found in there.
Or, apparently, introspectiveness…
Liberals are just sheep. They believe whatever the media tells them. They think they don’t need to believe anything other than the media tells them. One of the things the media tells them is they are superior to others, and it gets into their heads.
Kettle meet pot?
Uhhhhhhhhh, gotta say, I’ve never once heard NPR tell me that we’re special or privilaged, or above the law. Or even should be.
Meanwhile our current president is a 34x convicted criminal and sexual predator.
…although to be fair, the democrats also had a sexual predator in the 60s (twice), and the 90s.
But I can’t recall any democrat running on the platform of “we’re better than them”.
You have just seen an Eldritch Abomination (-10 Sanity)
What’s “X”? Is that p0rn or something?
Well it is run by a jerkoff.
Work in progress swastika.
Imagine you had a relationship that turned out toxic, and then you decided to protect yourself by severing it. Later, when you even hear about X, your heart is filled with negative emotions, and you realize you need to move on.
In before reddit forces those subs to allow links to twitter.
Oh that’ll fucking show em
The less its posts are shared, the less its relevance is to the world. I can’t see that as a bad thing. It always baffled me how outsize Twitter’s influence was on world events/news while having 1/5th the active userbase of Facebook.
Twitter probably benefits from people being redirected to their site from repostings with how it has become the go to source for news like sports, so it might. Won’t hurt Elon financially but less people being exposed to the content there that Elon wants to push that don’t actively use Twitter is a good thing even if it is only a few.
Even small moves is a good thing with how over the years sports and game submissions have become increasingly more Twitter submissions.
Twitters value has already been going down the shitter thanks to shit leadership, this is just another nail.
actually it will.
weaning reliance off of a Nazi owned platform is the early signs of a dying product.
Lemmy should do the same IMO.
Some Lemmy communities already have.
I’ve seen that the Playstation and Nintendo communities have both banned it recently.
Reddit users are about to get reminded that its not their platform to make rules
It’s either the power mods or the admins who decide how content gets censored on reddit. Which one is worse?
That was my guess as well, but so far, as reported to Ars Technica, they don’t intend to intervene
I give them a week before they change their minds
Wait until some Trump loyalist brownshirt calls pigboy.
They are still on reddit
To befair the only lemmy community I’ve seen thats blocked X is /c/Playstation.
So reddit still has 49 more than we do.
I think vegan did. Not sure if thats on .world though
https://lemmy.world/post/24565936
or !vegan@lemmy.worldEdit: I am still confused about linking, sorry.
In fairness I don’t see a lot of Twitter links in general here with or without a ban. Most people use xcancel when they have to and have no other option.
IMO a ban here would be more symbolic than effective.
Those are rookie numbers!
Most of the X links on Reddit just point to non-X content anyway, and are used by Reddit posters to circumvent subreddit policies on excluding dodgy sources. In other words they were using X as a shitty URL shortener.
