• Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      6 hours ago

      Who told you not to trust anything the US said?

      This is meme is for people who are incapable of forming their own thoughts but have been told they are, aka, tools of propaganda.

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        4 hours ago

        Who told you not to trust anything the US said?

        Living in the US is sufficient cause to distrust its government.

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            3 hours ago

            Idk I like it when the proletariat is able to dictate the course of society

            Also your reply contradicts your statement that I first replied to.

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              2 hours ago

              Not at all.

              Someone told you not to trust either. Presumable not the same person, presumable American government told you not to trust China but that begs then question who told you not to trust the American government.

              Further the meme implies one should trust the Chinese government presumably because an untrustworthy source told you not to which is a mentally stunted view.

              Not being trapped under the direct influence of the Chinese government, there are clearly many of reasons not to trust that government either.

              There is no reason to trust any government. A basic understanding of history should make it clear that this is true of any government that has ever existed.

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                who told you not to trust the American government.

                You don’t have to be told not to trust it. Even deluded Chuds who guzzle US corporate propaganda all day don’t trust it.

                Further the meme implies one should trust the Chinese government presumably because an untrustworthy source told you not to which is a mentally stunted view.

                No, the meme implies that your distrust isn’t justified, not that trust is justified.

                Not being trapped under the direct influence of the Chinese government, there are clearly many of reasons not to trust that government either.

                Okay, have you talked to any recent(as in the last 10 years) immigrants from China who don’t make way over the median US income? Or hell, earlier immigrants mostly only complain about the liberalization period under Deng.

                There is no reason to trust any government. A basic understanding of history should make it clear that this is true of any government that has ever existed

                This doesn’t really acknowledge the class character of the state.

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              3 hours ago

              The government that actively tries to censor elements of news from their citizens. Yeah buddy, sure thing.

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                3 hours ago

                I said

                “Living in the US is sufficient cause to distrust its government.”

                You replied:

                “I can say the same for China”

                I replied:

                “Except you literally can’t.” Meaning you don’t live in China so you can’t make the claim with similar level of authority

                And then you made the comment I replied to, and I don’t see at all how it is connected to the line of conversation.

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                  3 hours ago

                  I guess I can’t because i don’t live in China, but you understand the point of my argument yet choose to play semantics. It’s fine