I’m OK with 2D but draw the line at pixel-art. Pun not intended.
What’s funny is that a new GPU alone will set ya back that amount already. I’m hopefully picking up the 5080 at launch for 1k
I was just going to say my new PC was $5000 and $1,200 of that was the GPU.
Just to game though?
My desktop is literally only used for gaming (I have a separate PC for everything else) and I spent probably 3-4k on it.
Buy a lot of high end NVMe storage and I could easily see it costing 5k.
I don’t see how a gaming only pc has $3800 of non-gpu costs. There has to be a threadripper equivalent cpu and/or a shit ton of storage/ram on there.
Motherboards aren’t cheap, nor is the top of the line CPUs. The 7950x3D is still $600 on amazon. X670e boards start at like $200 and go up over $500 easily. If you just say fuck it and buy the best you can easily hit that number, especially if you throw in some high end storage drives.
I’m looking to replace my CPU, mobo and ram and I’m looking at at least $1200 for that.
Wait for sales and you can spend half that. If you’re willing to settle for anything less than top of the line, you can go even lower. I picked up a 7900X3D under $450 CAD this summer. My Motherboard was under $200 CAD for an ITX board, and I got 32GB of 6000mHz RAM for $125 CAD.
The 7900x3d isn’t that great of a gaming CPU, you’d be better off with the single CCD 7800x3d.
But if you’re going for high end why wouldn’t you go for the 9800x3d/9950x3d? The only reason I picked the 7000 series was the lack of availability with the 9000 series x3d at the moment. And if you’re getting 90000 series x870e offers a lot of features as standard over x670e.
If it’s just for gaming, you really don’t need the absolute top of the line in terms of CPU. I can’t think of a game I’ve ever played that maxes out my CPU on all cores.
Unless you’re also using it for CPU-specific and intensive work outside of gaming, you won’t gain much from spending more money.
I feel like kinda the main reasons to pick up a latest gen gpu nowadays are energy efficiency and a warranty (although 5000 series doesn’t look all that energy efficient, we’ll see i guess)
otherwise you can definitely get something better on ebay for cheaper
but if you live somewhere where energy is expensive, the difference might be significant. 500w is kinda a lot lol, any difference in performance/watt will add up
prices are going to drop when the new gpus come out and people need to get rid of their old ones, but currently with a little bit of looking i could find a ‘buy it now’ 7900 xt for $640, a 3090 for $775, and a 3090 ti for $850
honestly these aren’t great deals you could probably find better ones
I’m hopefully picking up the 5080 at launch
why tho
Not OP but my GPU is a decade old, would be nice to have the latest for once.
You might be better off with a 4000 series, unless you got a new motherboard that won’t be bottlenecked much by the pcie version jump.
Unless you’re getting a 5090 the pcie bottleneck should be negligible compared to your CPU or other things.
On pcie 3 the 4090 gets about a 5% performance penalty. I’d assume the 5080 is about the same performance as the 4090 so the hit should be similar. Unless you’re like me with a 5800x3d on a garbage B450 motherboard your CPU is probably going to be holding you back so much more than the pcie version.
My guess is that if a 4090 is bottlenecked 5% on pcie 3.0 (although I think it’s closer to 10%). Also if pcie 4.0 is double the speed as 3.0, and pcie 5.0 is double 4.0. Then the bottleneck will be closer to 10% if running a 5080 on pcie 3.0.
The only caveat to that is that the card must be using x16 bus speed for the negligible impact, which only the high-end cards reliably do. A bunch of the 70 series and under cards are actually x8 bus speed, and then pcie 4 actually matters. ~20% vs 5% performance loss for 8x bus cards over pcie 3.
For the pixel art.
Bethesda games aren’t gonna run themselves
Bethesda games aren’t gonna run
themselvesBethesda games need 5080?
Did Starfield become a good game?
I enjoyed it.
The criticisms are valid, but I still think it was a fun time.
Depends if you like starfield
Personally, I didn’t like it. I think a lot of it comes down to two things: Do you care about the writing and the world they’ve built? If so, how critical of it are you (or alternatively, have you seen the sci-fi tropes done well).
Starfield has some really bad world building. In particular, it doesn’t understand why we use sci-fi, and why it’s tropes are interesting. it’s to create an anologue of our world and to break it down, criticize, and point out it’s flaws and ways to fix them.
Starfield is the least critical writing I’ve ever seen I think. The Earth is destroyed, and instead of using this to discuss us destroying the planet right now, it’s just some technobable that has no parallels. Also, when fleeing Earth, they don’t try to solve issues. They just set up new corporations doing the exact same stuff in other places. When the game presents a problem where taking down a CEO would be one of the best possible outcomes, it isn’t an option. Literally everything you do in the game is maintaining the status-quo of the modern world, despite it being the source of so many issues in the game. You can’t change anything and no one wants to either.
Starfield doesn’t understand sci-fi. Fallout does a better job as a sci-fi series than Starfield does. If you’re still interested, the gameplay is also slow and boring and there’s almost no interesting stories or characters. Continue if you want, but I regret spending time on it for the price of $0, and I generally love Bethesda games and the sci-fi genre (although, as mentioned above, I think this is part of why I don’t like it).
Also, when fleeing Earth, they don’t try to solve issues. They just set up new corporations doing the exact same stuff in other places. When the game presents a problem where taking down a CEO would be one of the best possible outcomes, it isn’t an option. Literally everything you do in the game is maintaining the status-quo of the modern world, despite it being the source of so many issues in the game. You can’t change anything and no one wants to either.
That sounds pretty realistic to me. I’m not sure if it’s intentional, but this counts as a commentary on our social situation. Probably doesn’t make for a compelling game, though.
If it were commentary, they’d talk about it. It just is, and it can’t change. They just copied what they know without considering why.
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Used graphics card prices aren’t that much better than new.
The 4090 still has a VRAM advantage over the 5080 so it’s probably going to continue to hold it’s value pretty well. Especially since there’s a massive voice in pricing between the $1k 5080 and the $2k 5090.
Unless the 24gb ARC GPU comes out (or AI crashes) I see the 4090 just not depreciating a substantial amount. And that’s the only option that would compare to the 5080 since AMD isn’t even trying to make high end.
It’s wild how many comments I got saying buy used when if you check HWS it’s full of 4080s clearing $900-$1000 used
I bought ps5 specifically for aaa games, never been happier, pc is for indie and ps5 ps3 and Xbox 360 for aaa
Cries in STALKER 2
Balatro got me like…
Holocure rn for me
I don’t like the picture
you’re right! hmm, I wonder how many pixel art games there are that have eventually evolved into a different form like 2.5D or even 3D
There were a lot, back when 3D graphics became a thing in general, because companies felt like they’d get left behind, if they didn’t somehow make their games 3D.
But yeah, these days, I don’t think this happens much. 2D rarely translates well into 3D, because the whole gameplay works differently. And while 2.5D doesn’t have the same problem, it’s also a lot of effort for what’s essentially just a different art style.
Me going back to hollow knight, celeste, modded minecraft, and dead cells instead of buying new games
I see that you bought expensive hardware just for modded minecraft. That shit’s no joke.
Me upgrading my computer to kick ass just so I can play Old School Runescape
Me playing OSRS with 1k+ days on it, what’s other games?
Hey, the GPU plugin in runelite that adds lighting effects can absolutely EAT GPU power.
Yeah it can, if I use that plugin fullscreen on my 1440p monitor, I can’t even watch YouTube on another monitor because my GPU is maxed out lmao
I’ll always upvote a Chaeyoung meme
Me modding the 2D pixel art game with ultra HD textures, shaders, reflections, realistic physics engine, ray tracing.
every AAA game in recent years sucks and most of them are scrapped before they’re finished
Remarkable how none of that is true.
Elden ring, Baldurs Gate 3, Helldivers 2, Wukong, Marvel Rivals… List goes on, and that’s just 2024. You .ight not like some genders, and that’s fine, but there are good AAAs.
Also, with the number of AAAs reaching the shelves, what do you mean “most are scrapped”? Sure some games get cancelled from time to time, but saying that’s most of them is just fantasy…
2 of those games are from 2022 and 2023
You could argue that Shadow of the erd tree puts elden ring in 2024 because it had so much content.
Thanks for the corrections, looks like I got in late on BG3 and if we’re nitpicking about Shadow of the Erd Tree being a DLC, we need to talk about horse armour.
In any case, the guy I was replying to was crying about no good AAA games in the last few years, so it still applies, but going by overall reviews you can just as easily sub in stuff like Metaphor ReFantazio or Tekken or Like a Dragon and I’m sure there’s others in genres I don’t care about
Helldivers 2 has Sony fuckery involved. I was considering getting it when I upgraded my machine, but not after the login nonsense.
Pixelated grass is always greener
I love my 3080 running LA noire.
I don’t think I even remember what “AAA” games I bought last year. Uh… Baldur’s Gate III and Train Sim World 5. That’s about that.
Thing is, I didn’t play much of those either! I have an absolutely gigantic backlog! And in December I got somehow addicted to Skyrim again. It never ends
Best and awesomest and most profound game experience I had last year was Chants of Sennaar, and even that technically came out in 2023.
I don’t think those games AAA. Baldur’s Gate 3 is in the border between being AA and AAA, but Train Sim World can’t have that much of a development cost, no?
Well, I suppose they’re less “AAA” and more “Games With Actual Noticeable Budget”. Simulators aren’t exactly mainstream these days, yes.
