Not so much a professional field as a field of human experience, but being homeless.
People think the main things homeless people lack are:
- food and drink
- shelter
- money
In actuality, most homeless people have at least some of that stuff. What they tend to totally lack, creating the difficulty in living a civilized life of dignity, are:
- bathrooms/hygiene facilities
- security
- storage space
Medical field here: The vast majority of us are not in it for the money. Physicians have to spend 3 to 9 years after medical school working for a wage that works out to about $5/hour to gain certification and a medical license in their specialty. And that’s after 8 to 12 years of undergraduate/graduate/doctorate education that basically has to be paid for with loans unless they’re in the military or come from a rich family. So, yes, physicians do make high salaries once they’re established, but there was a lot of work and sacrifice to get to that point, and very few people are masochistic enough to put themselves through that just for the money.
Also, the most expensive parts of a medical appointment/surgery/ER visit etc is the administrative overhead, inflated prices of drugs and supplies, and insurance company bullshit. Very little money from that price tag actually makes it to the healthcare workers. Your average EMT on an ambulance makes between $13-20/hour depending on the state minimum wage.
If you have a problem with your healthcare costs, that’s something to take up with your representatives in government, not the EMTs, CNAs, nurses, and physicians providing your care.
As a patient, the reason I’m complaining about healthcare costs is if you say something like “My job isn’t to worry about the money”. Well mine, as the patient, is. Sometimes it helps when I explain that financial stress is a predictor of heart disease, then they get where I’m coming from.
I need to know in advance how much this costs because I’m doing a cost-benefit analysis against other forms of harm that I can spend the money to avoid. And if you (the royal you, your entire profession) can’t understand how that could be a factor, I can translate the financial cost into morbidity statistics.
I’m in my third year of medical school, so I’ve just started my clinical rotations, but one of the things that shows up on almost every reference table for physicians regarding treatment options is information on the price for the patient. I’m rotating in a family medicine clinic right now, and we pretty frequently prescribe the best possible treatment, and then when the pharmacy runs it through the patient’s insurance and finds out how much it’s going to cost, we then start working down the list of next-best alternatives until we can find something the patient can afford. Because there are so many different insurance plans out there, we have no idea how much something is going to cost until the insurance tells us.
<cough cough> single payer <cough cough>
Yes. This exactly.
I understand that you don’t have the information. But the information is retrievable, just with way more delay than we need.
Each time I talk to you, to get a new prescription for the next-best thing, it costs me about $100.
If we could get all the information systems good enough, you could prescribe, insurance could quote, and you could re-prescribe in seconds.
Unfortunately, most health insurance plans have a separate sub-company manage the pharmacy benefits and we have absolutely zero way of accessing their systems. It would be lovely if we could see what your insurance would cover immediately as we prescribe it, but that also runs into the problem of us not having any control over the actual pharmacy and their billing and pricing.
(IT support) I actually don’t know where that random setting in your application is, I’m just really fast and good at guessing from doing it a million times in applications I’ve never heard of before.
Similar to that, just because someone works in IT, doesn’t mean they can fix your computer problem. I’ve worked with a lot of developers who were great coders but couldn’t resolve networking or random OS issues.
I’m a developer. Most of the time when I contact IT it’s because they broke something I rely on, like our vCenter appliance or network communications between some Linux appliances with static IPs.
Oh yes. I support a lot of developers, and being a good programmer is not the same as understanding networking in a corporate environment or even knowing anything about printers. That’s why I’m needed 😃
That you can quickly pick up coding with a few courses.
Can you learn it? Sure why not. Just keep in mind that you’ll never stop learning, so it has to fit into your lifestyle.
Further, you’ll have to be patient and be able to deal with stress well. If you can’t adjust yourself to work in a team, you’ll have difficulty finding work.
Another misconception is that coders stay alone at home in a dark room all the time. Coding is just one part of your life and people do all sorts of stuff.
Yeah lots of people who aren’t in tech think of coding as a solitary job, but it’s a very social-skills-dependent job.
Social skills required to be a coder (at least; probably forgetting many):
- Communicate complex concepts which have never been discussed before
- Deliver things on time
- Understand the tradeoffs of others’ jobs well enough to make good decisions about when it’s worth it NOT to deliver something on time (or be able to figure it out by communicating with whom you’re delivering to)
- Know the balance between asking for help and trying to figure it out yourself, including the short- and long-term tradeoffs of the two approaches
- Know whether a problem you’re encountering is your own lack of skill, your own lack of knowledge, your own lack of care, or someone else’s any of those, and then communicate with others on the basis of being unsure of this
- Deal with antisocial coworkers who can hide their shenanigans in the complexity of the code. I.e. if they’re smart enough they can screw with your work, making you look bad, in a way that is extremely difficult to explain to non-technical management (and hence get support for)
- Have the emotional stability and the hutzpah and the finesse to call things like this out when they do happen, and make those complicated explanations or deliver their abstract form
- Understand and feel the pain of users when their systems break
As an autistic person, I struggled mightily with the social skill requirements of being a coder on a team. I ultimately failed. I’d like to go back and try again, after doing some really basic shit to improve my own character.
“IT is mainly introverts doing mysterious stuff no one understands”
It is a very cooperative field where everyone has different roles with different responsibilities, but everyone has a vague idea what everyone else is doing. Most of the time is spent making sure everyone else can also use the systems you build, not just yourself.
That I could fix Windows PCs. Nope. When my work PC has issues, I call IT. I design computer chips.
Hey! Can I ask you about that? What type of chips? What are your most used skills/technologies and what helped get started when you were new? I want to work with fpgas, and I’d love to know what your experience with that has been like
I started with programming about anything that is programmable and not up on a tree at the count of three. I did industrial control units, and I worked on a Cray X-MP, and about anything between. I wrote computer games, compilers, an OS, database engines, and loads of applications. I’ve probably forgotten more programming languages than todays students have heard of. One day I ended up in embedded systems.
As our company had only one FPGA developer, I got sent on a three day course to learn VHDL from the source (Eugen Krassin, one of the original key developers of ISE). Right after that, I started developing FPGA firmware for our company. Luckily, I had some hardware experience from my work on the C64 and earlier, so I had a good understanding of clocks and signals. I know that even seasoned programmers really hit a wall when entering the world of HDLs.
I started with ISE back then on Spartan S3 and S6, then Xilinx f-ed us up so hard that the boss slammed the phone down after the last call with those guys and told me to find a more reliable company STAT. We now use Efinix FPGAs which has the big advantage that people there actually listen and help when I ask a question.
My field is isosynchronous low-latency networks for audio applications.
Woah, you’re on OG! I’m unfamiliar with a lot of those things and had to look them up. Crazy!
Hah! ISE - I used that for a hot second, and you still see tutorials using it as well.
My goodness, tell me about it, I’m new and I already find myself frustrated with Xilinx sometimes. It feels like there are very few resources from them for learning, but I thought that was just because it’s a niche subject. I’ll have to take a look at Efinix. I guess I thought it was safer to stick to the biggest name while I’m trying to get established. At the moment I’m trying to get some example projects working on a Zybo Z7. I’m finding out that it’s a lot to take in
Thanks for taking the time to reply! I feel strangely honored to hear from such an OG :) Cheers!
Whenever you are looking for a supplier for something, keep in mind that there are advantages and disadvantages when choosing one.
If you are in a small niece company, and your supplier is THE BIG OLD COMPANY, you are completely at their mercy. On the other hand, they usually have vast resources you can tap, like training capabilities and software you won’t get elsewhere, or at least nor for the price.
That was our relationship with Xilinx. Yes, you get trainings and tutorials for everything, and they have a “light” version of ModelSim thrown in for free in their IDE, but on the other hand, they basically cut us off from one day to the next. And that was not even our fault.
So we went looking and found Efinix. Small, but growing, their IDE has a few edges that need to be rounded off, and they can’t afford to throw in a free simulator, so we had to spend quite a few bucks to buy that (and it was not even ModelSim we bought, so I had to re-train). But at least they are open and helpful. You ask a question in their forum, and they come back to you to help. I’ve been talking to real people who are directly in contact with the dev team. When I had a strange compiler problem, I had a fix within 48 hours. THAT is gold in a supplier.
I’m finding out that it’s a lot to take in
Yes, indeed. The step from CPU-based programming languages to Hardware definition languages is hard for most programmers, and for some, it is even insurmountable. Once you get the hang of it, it gets way easier.
I met a student once in a Reddit sub once who had issues with her code. I helped her and gave her a few tips how to improve it, and at the end, she asked me of my opinion of the project. I told her that it was a nice little beginner project, something to pass a boring Friday afternoon. Her reply: “Thats my Bachelor Thesis!*”. What looks big and difficult to master will one day look simple and meek when you look back, so don’t let it drag you down if things don’t work on the first try.
As an uber driver: that I know where building G is. Your housing complex is like ten acres of apartment buildings and speed bumps I have to go over while I search around for building G.
For anyone unaware, you can fine-tune the pickup point in the Uber app by holding and dragging the map.
You set the pickup point, then I meet you there. That’s my side of this job.
I’m a web developer and people seem to think that once a product is brought to market the devs are no longer needed.
We aren’t trying to screw you, the actual solutions (not bandaids) are just expensive (paying for knowledge, skill, equipment, and parts). That 5 min fix took years to know to look for and how to fix quickly, plus have the part on the truck for immediate installation. Typically a quick tech is a good tech if the problem is solved.
I’m a physicist and we are actually dumb as a box of rocks.
As a mathematician I will reiterate what my supervisor told me: Math is not hard, it is only we that suck at it (said in context of me complaining about having used way too much time on what I in retrospect found to be simple).
Physicist: Makes a weird formula, uses it for decades without knowing why it works.
Mathematician: Looks for an approach that makes sense for decades, dies.
I get annoyed with the way they use math sometimes, but I have to keep in mind there is an advantage to it (I guess).
Learning to explain math to a computer has been a major blessing.
Also a physicist, and I can confirm that we are all as dumb as rocks.
We are literally rocks
IT is actually a vast field with many many specialties similar to medicine. Asking the copier guy why your server is down is kinda like asking a podiatrist why you’re sad all the time.
Ive always compared it to trades. Like, asking a plumber to fix your light switch or something.
no one QA’d this AAA game
Actually, that game breaking bug was caught weeks ago by QA. Unmoving deadlines set by upper management meant that a fix couldn’t be made in time for the content schedule.
Also, by the time the game has been released for 1 hour, the players have already racked up more playtime than the full QA team could reasonably achieve throughout several years of development (and for most of that time QA were playing an older version…). So, if your game has a lot of player choice, randomization, simulation, complex systems, chances are the players are seeing things that QA never did. And then the players wonder how QA could miss such an obvious bug.
I’ve mothballed multiple RCs from finding P0 issues by pure chance. In my experience, 90% of bugs are already caught by QA, 8% were isolated bugs that would realistically never get caught in QA, and 2% just slip through.
That’s why bugs can be labeled “in shipped version.”
They know. It’s just they balanced it against everything else and it wasn’t worth spending time on or delaying the game for.
I won’t say that it’s purely a AAA problem, but it’s harder to excuse there.
That what I do is easy and that I’m “just pushing buttons”. Yeah, I’m pushing the right button at the right time because the whoke shebang has been program’d, cued, mixed over weeks of rehearsals so that, come show time, it’s all by magic. Magic of pushing the right button at the right time while also reading the brochure, watch the stage, issue cues to other dept sometimes in 2 different languages.
Easy peasy!
Stage manager? I’m not one myself, but I used to work in a theatre, and those people earn their money for sure. It’s an amazing talent to keep everything running so smoothly, and it rarely gets the credit it deserves.
Yup! Must say this stemmed from a not-so-long-ago public comment by a “lead actor” which later took an hour-long dressing down by the director straight through his face. He apologized.
That the folks in IT have any sway over microsoft or facebook’s ui plans.
NO Karen, I can not make Teams go back to the way it used to be. No matter how many times you ask.
That I will ignore 30 years of accumulated knowledge and experience - and all the relevant laws - just because they really really really want me to build something their way, and that they tell me it’ll be fine. If an experienced professional says “no” there is a good reason for that… we’re not just being obstinate.
