• BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works
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    4 hours ago

    I don’t know about the other countries, but In France there definitely still are problems, check this recent story https://www.lanouvellerepublique.fr/a-la-une/on-lui-refuse-l-acces-aux-urgences-elle-accouche-sur-le-parking-de-l-hopital

    A pregnant women was refused entrance to a private hospital she was forced to give birth on the parking lot in front of the entrance.

    Sure the USA have an awful system but it doesn’t mean it’s perfect everywhere else. There are people that are bankrupt because of medical treatment here too. And we also have corrupt CEOs making it worse

    Every country needs a Luigi.

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      4 hours ago

      USA have an awful system but it doesn’t mean it’s perfect everywhere else

      I don’t think that’s the message in this post either, so… The message is, it’s just far, far worse with the system they have, due to all healthcare being privatized.

      At least that is my understanding. 🤷‍♂️

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        Yes of course,

        I replied to this post because it is one of many making bold claims about healthcare in other countries than the US, most of the times claims about European countries healthcare made by US users are false and/or misleading.

        Sure the US has a very bad system, I see it and recognize how bad it is, but it’s a tad annoying to see stuff like that, that falsely say we have “0” bankruptcy or that “everything” is covered by public healthcare, that our life expectancy is that much higher, etc… Most claims are unsourced and blatantly false or largely inflated for shock value.

        In France for example we have many issues with our public healthcare, not everything is covered (dental isn’t for example), we aren’t covered for the full amount unless we pay for private coverage on top (called “mutuelle”) which often are linked to your employer, we have to pay up front and then get reimbursed later, geographically there are areas with very few hospitals, the poorer often can’t afford to be sick because we aren’t always automatically paid for sick days at work, there’s a shortage of medical fields’ workers, and our current political leaders have been making it worse for decades…

        All that to say that from the perspective of a “European” citizen, these posts about the US system compared with ours feels like propaganda that “we should be happy with what we have” even though we really shouldn’t, using false information.

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      I don’t speak French. Why didn’t she go to the public one? Why was she forced to give birth on the parking? Why not call an ambulance?

      Unpopular opinion incoming: I can understand if they didn’t allow her in in a PRIVATE one if she was not covered.

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        3 hours ago

        She was too far gone to be able to go to the nearest public one.

        It’s actually a huge scandal in France, we have laws preventing this, and the hospital is pretending that it was a mistake from an individual employee to refuse her.